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re: If Mail in Voting (even without fraud) leads to more extreme chaos for days after Tuesday
Posted on 11/4/22 at 7:53 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 11/4/22 at 7:53 am to SlowFlowPro
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Even if there is no fraud
There are but a few certainties in life-death, taxes, and election fraud in Philly.
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Posted on 11/4/22 at 7:54 am to redneck hippie
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would you be ok w people voting from their phones?
No, because this part is impossible.
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If it were a 100% auditable and completely secure system?
If voting is so important, get off your lazy arse and get to the polling station.
Posted on 11/4/22 at 7:55 am to redneck hippie
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Hypothetical - would you be ok w people voting from their phones? If it were a 100% auditable and completely secure system?
Absolutely.
Reality - no such system is or will be available.
Posted on 11/4/22 at 7:55 am to SlowFlowPro
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Even if there is no fraud, how is this a good thing for our elections?
This question assumes that those pushing for the chaotic system give a damn about election integrity.
Posted on 11/4/22 at 7:56 am to Antonio Moss
Read the last sentence 
Posted on 11/4/22 at 7:58 am to Antonio Moss
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This question assumes that those pushing for the chaotic system give a damn about election integrity.
The Marxist definition of democracy is voting in Marxists. They don’t care how they get there.
Posted on 11/4/22 at 7:58 am to 2dog2many
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Many on the PT board hate every eligible American voting except for their personal know it all opinions on, who can vote, when they can vote and the process on how they can vote. Many on the PT board do not believe in one person, one vote.
Just so we are clear, being dead doesn’t make you eligible.
Posted on 11/4/22 at 8:00 am to SlowFlowPro
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Yeah what % of the population actually needs MIV? It has to be incredibly small.
What percentage is actually trans? But it was never about those people anyway, just money and power.
To answer OP, yes elections without fraud isn't enough. We must have transparent elections to PROVE there isn't fraud.
Posted on 11/4/22 at 8:02 am to SlowFlowPro
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we've already been told that the delays are going to take days to resolve some very important, very close races.
What I don’t get is how this understanding now seems to just be automatically built in ahead of time.
It’s never, well it took us several days to “count” last time, let’s see how we can get that fixed for this time.
It’s weird. Seems like it should be the simplest process in the world with our available technology.
Posted on 11/4/22 at 8:02 am to jlc05
Besides Philadelphia, you can add:
Atlanta
New York
Los angelos
Phoenix
Madison
Milwaukee
Detroit
Charlotte
Chicago
I can go on. Basically every Demorat run city with failed schools.
Atlanta
New York
Los angelos
Phoenix
Madison
Milwaukee
Detroit
Charlotte
Chicago
I can go on. Basically every Demorat run city with failed schools.
Posted on 11/4/22 at 8:03 am to STEVED00
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Absentee ballots were always a thing but they were reserved for specific situations. Having a week plus long early voting period should provide people plenty of time and access to vote. I could see voting on a specific Election Day could provide hardships to some but early voting eliminates that problem for the vast majority of cases. If it doesn’t then see absentee process.
Well you have people that don’t live in the country, but then you have a guy selling data to the Chinese and what do you know? We end up with more absentee ballots from out of the country.
Posted on 11/4/22 at 8:04 am to 2dog2many
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Many on the PT board hate every eligible American voting except for their personal know it all opinions on, who can vote, when they can vote and the process on how they can vote. Many on the PT board do not believe in one person, one vote.
I’d say your premise is flawed but why in the Hell would even someone as naive or disingenuous as yourself want everyone to vote? What you’re saying is you’re totally fine with anyone voting regardless of their level of knowledge of the candidates they vote for?
In other words you’re good with as many ill informed votes as possible so long as someone votes? If so then you deserve every bit of shitty governance you wind up with that makes your existence here miserable that you get.
Posted on 11/4/22 at 8:05 am to the808bass
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Reality - no such system is or will be available
I think it's possible but the biometric data required would create 10000 CTs and we're back to similar issues as MIV.
Also, the usual suspects would argue poor people can't afford the right phones so it's discriminatory.
Posted on 11/4/22 at 8:05 am to STEVED00
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Absentee ballots were always a thing but they were reserved for specific situations.
And we need to go back to that and completely eliminate mass mail out of ballots
Posted on 11/4/22 at 8:06 am to Y.A. Tittle
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What I don’t get is how this understanding now seems to just be automatically built in ahead of time.
It’s all conditioning for us to accept a certain new level of cheating.
Posted on 11/4/22 at 8:06 am to STEVED00
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Absentee ballots were always a thing but they were reserved for specific situations.
I've been voting absentee in LA since long before the official early voting process came about. "I expect to be out of town that week" along with a picture ID was enough. Then if I was in town I would always try to round up a left-leaning friend or two and get them too drunk to remember it was election day.
Posted on 11/4/22 at 8:07 am to the808bass
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Reality - no such system is or will be available.
I agree. Not today, but 25? 50 or 100 years from now? I could see it
This post was edited on 11/4/22 at 8:09 am
Posted on 11/4/22 at 8:08 am to SlowFlowPro
You'd think a former Dem. President and former GOP Secretary of State issuing a report against mail in voting would have been enough.
Posted on 11/4/22 at 8:08 am to Robin Masters
Here is how someone living in PA at least a month before the election date votes by mail.
This is separate from military (those ill/just had surgery voting absentee)
So they can vote for weeks early, in person early. And no excuse is needed to vote by mail.
So all of the pre set up P.O. Boxes with fake voters can still be used.
There were several USPS whistle blowers that went away. This was one driving ballots from NY to PA. LINK
No ID is needed unless you are new to voting in PA.
https://www.vote.pa.gov/Resources/Documents/PADOS_MailInApplication.pdf
This is separate from military (those ill/just had surgery voting absentee)
So they can vote for weeks early, in person early. And no excuse is needed to vote by mail.
So all of the pre set up P.O. Boxes with fake voters can still be used.
There were several USPS whistle blowers that went away. This was one driving ballots from NY to PA. LINK
No ID is needed unless you are new to voting in PA.
https://www.vote.pa.gov/Resources/Documents/PADOS_MailInApplication.pdf
Posted on 11/4/22 at 8:09 am to shinerfan
while everyone is watching for mules and ballot box shenanigans, the USPS postal service is who we should really be watching ...
LINK
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U.S. Postal Service Opens Permanent Political Division, Dedicated to the Delivery and Return of Mail-in Election Ballots, DNC Lawyer Mark Elias is Very Happy
July 29, 2022
With mail-in ballots becoming a feature of all future elections, the United States government, specifically the United States Postal Service (USPS) is now creating a permanent division inside USPS to control the delivery and return of the election ballots. Do you know the political affiliation of your mail courier?
As often said, it’s not the vote that matters, it’s the counting…. or in this instance, the collection of the votes that really matters. Democrat lawyer Mark Elias, in charge of protecting all fraudulent voting initiatives on behalf of the Democrat National Committee, is happy with the news.
Keep in mind the union representing 300,000 U.S. postal workers previously endorsed Democrat Joe Biden for president. The National Association of Letter Carriers, is a fully compromised left-wing division of the USPS.
The USPS has just created a division of NALC employees exclusively to handle mail-in voting, just in time for the mid-term election.
WASHINGTON (AP) — The United States Postal Service is creating a division to handle election mail issues as part of an effort to ensure swift and secure delivery of ballots for the 2022 midterm election, officials said Wednesday.
The idea behind the creation of the Election and Government Mail Services is to have a permanent division dedicated to dealing with election matters, instead of handling issues one at a time as in the past.
Adrienne Marshall, executive director of the division, said Wednesday that the services will oversee “election mail strike teams” in every local and district community to address any problems that might arise. “We are fully committed to the secure and timely delivery of the nation’s election mail,” she said.
“Swift and secure delivery”?
LINK
This post was edited on 11/4/22 at 8:27 am
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