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Idea, for our beloved Forum to rise to the next level.
Posted by RCDfan1950 on 1/13/21 at 8:08 am628
As the essential goodness of our Debate Forum is being challenged, and threatened with censoring, I offer this sincere option as potential solution.
Our Site has been monitored and cached for years; admittedly, it is the 'locker room' version of debate. Many of us throw mud on the wall, looking for the best critique available, in order to perfect our own ideas.
Being mostly Ideologically-Right based, the criticism of Obama was off the scale, far worse than reaction to the fraudulent Special Counsel atrocity, Muh Impeachment...and on to an overly fraudulent election (assumption, on my part).
Self-delusion comes by degree, and for many reasons; Denial being at the fore for a Clinical label. And there may well be other 'Powers' in play: "Behold, I will send them great delusion that they will believe a lie". One Side is most certainly delusional.
Justification for 'whatever it takes'...as well, rules Human Nature. This Earth and Human Species has been around for a long time, wars for each other's stuff, land and labor (slavery). Sometimes the good folk win, sometimes they lose. Sometimes people who believe they are good, are wrong; and it's the ones who believe they are righteous, whose acts are most barbaric toward their opposition, and therein evil.
I would love to talk to some FBI folk, and address their concerns, understand their motivation/chosen action, as I know they have loved ones (especially the kids), as do I. I would be quick to remind them that if there is God...we ALL will be judged into a next life, based on our "words" and actions in this life. 'Following orders', won't cut it in either a Worldly or Spiritual 'Court'; as Hitler's henchmen found out. If there is no next, then all is lost, and our most noble efforts...folly.
If the Left is TRULY convinced of their moral and practical superiority...then why don't they choose a powerful and eloquent REPRESENTATIVE - openly designated as such - to come on this Forum and beat down the 'heathen' and win in the arena of Ideas. A Ph.D or some very persuasive debater. Does such exist? They had better, given the threatening and pernicious talk from the Left. God is writing in His 'book'.
Or do they believe that 'herding cats' is a preferred action for societal prosperity.
I would love to see Chicken offer a FORMAL INVITATION to the Left's best. The proposed dialogue and engagement would be a real education, with potential to perfect our ideas and accomplish what all loving people desire; such being unity, peace and prosperity. It would vault our Forum and set the standard for many other Forums.
Or we can just continue to de-humanize each other toward ultimate disrespect, antipathy, contempt and the pure (Ideological-based) hatred which will result in wanton slaughter. With both 'Sides' paying the price in the blood of their beloved children.
I look forward to and pray for this possibility. The time for talk is short, as the pressure amps up.
God have mercy on those who love.
Our Site has been monitored and cached for years; admittedly, it is the 'locker room' version of debate. Many of us throw mud on the wall, looking for the best critique available, in order to perfect our own ideas.
Being mostly Ideologically-Right based, the criticism of Obama was off the scale, far worse than reaction to the fraudulent Special Counsel atrocity, Muh Impeachment...and on to an overly fraudulent election (assumption, on my part).
Self-delusion comes by degree, and for many reasons; Denial being at the fore for a Clinical label. And there may well be other 'Powers' in play: "Behold, I will send them great delusion that they will believe a lie". One Side is most certainly delusional.
Justification for 'whatever it takes'...as well, rules Human Nature. This Earth and Human Species has been around for a long time, wars for each other's stuff, land and labor (slavery). Sometimes the good folk win, sometimes they lose. Sometimes people who believe they are good, are wrong; and it's the ones who believe they are righteous, whose acts are most barbaric toward their opposition, and therein evil.
I would love to talk to some FBI folk, and address their concerns, understand their motivation/chosen action, as I know they have loved ones (especially the kids), as do I. I would be quick to remind them that if there is God...we ALL will be judged into a next life, based on our "words" and actions in this life. 'Following orders', won't cut it in either a Worldly or Spiritual 'Court'; as Hitler's henchmen found out. If there is no next, then all is lost, and our most noble efforts...folly.
If the Left is TRULY convinced of their moral and practical superiority...then why don't they choose a powerful and eloquent REPRESENTATIVE - openly designated as such - to come on this Forum and beat down the 'heathen' and win in the arena of Ideas. A Ph.D or some very persuasive debater. Does such exist? They had better, given the threatening and pernicious talk from the Left. God is writing in His 'book'.
Or do they believe that 'herding cats' is a preferred action for societal prosperity.
I would love to see Chicken offer a FORMAL INVITATION to the Left's best. The proposed dialogue and engagement would be a real education, with potential to perfect our ideas and accomplish what all loving people desire; such being unity, peace and prosperity. It would vault our Forum and set the standard for many other Forums.
Or we can just continue to de-humanize each other toward ultimate disrespect, antipathy, contempt and the pure (Ideological-based) hatred which will result in wanton slaughter. With both 'Sides' paying the price in the blood of their beloved children.
I look forward to and pray for this possibility. The time for talk is short, as the pressure amps up.
God have mercy on those who love.
re: Idea, for our beloved Forum to rise to the next level.Posted by PsychTiger on 1/13/21 at 8:10 am to RCDfan1950
Not reading all of that, but I'll just keep posting sarcastically and see where that gets me.
All Hail Chairman Biden and, of course, Chairman Xi!
All Hail Chairman Biden and, of course, Chairman Xi!
re: Idea, for our beloved Forum to rise to the next level.Posted by Robin Masters on 1/13/21 at 8:10 am to RCDfan1950
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he proposed dialogue and engagement would be a real education, with potential to perfect our ideas and accomplish what all loving people desire; such being unity, peace and prosperity
The left isn’t interested in any of those things. The least of which being “prosperity”. Know your enemy.
re: Idea, for our beloved Forum to rise to the next level.Posted by LuckyTiger on 1/13/21 at 8:12 am to RCDfan1950
Let’s go with dehumanizing each other.
re: Idea, for our beloved Forum to rise to the next level.Posted by BiteMe2020 on 1/13/21 at 8:12 am to RCDfan1950
Orange Man Bad
That's racist.
You're xenophobic.
You're a bigot.
You're a bitter clinger.
You're a deplorable.
That pretty much sums up the totality of sophisticated liberal argument presented over the last 13 years.
That's racist.
You're xenophobic.
You're a bigot.
You're a bitter clinger.
You're a deplorable.
That pretty much sums up the totality of sophisticated liberal argument presented over the last 13 years.
re: Idea, for our beloved Forum to rise to the next level.Posted by BestBanker on 1/13/21 at 8:13 am to RCDfan1950
re: Idea, for our beloved Forum to rise to the next level.Posted by SidewalkDawg on 1/13/21 at 8:16 am to RCDfan1950
quote:
If the Left is TRULY convinced of their moral and practical superiority...then why don't they choose a powerful and eloquent REPRESENTATIVE - openly designated as such - to come on this Forum and beat down the 'heathen' and win in the arena of Ideas. A Ph.D or some very persuasive debater. Does such exist? They had better, given the threatening and pernicious talk from the Left. God is writing in His 'book'.
First of all a PhD isn't going to waste their time coming here to debate some of the morons that would undoubtedly come out of the woodwork to challenge them.
Second, all of us should consider for the moment that our own ideas should be challenged as well. There are plenty of people here who are unwilling to the point of uncomfortableness to even set foot outside of their ideological safe space.
With that said, I understand the 1st Amendment is protection from the government and not a private entity. But anyone who can look at the silencing of dissenting thought (no matter how despicable you find it) with a smile on their face is deluded. They will come for you too.
The generation after ours will look upon the thoughts of today with horror that such barbarians could ever think the way we do.
re: Idea, for our beloved Forum to rise to the next level.Posted by BiteMe2020 on 1/13/21 at 8:19 am to SidewalkDawg
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Second, all of us should consider for the moment that our own ideas should be challenged as well.
That is great advice. I spent 3 years after college trying to figure out why I believed in God.
I listened to debates and read atheist blogs to see what it was all about. In the end, it made my belief in God even stronger.
I've done pretty much the same with politics. And I keep coming back to the conclusion that nobody is perfect, but liberals are intentionally imperfect. And Democrats and RINOS are cucked opportunists who enrich themselves at taxpayer expense.
re: Idea, for our beloved Forum to rise to the next level.Posted by Robin Masters on 1/13/21 at 8:20 am to SidewalkDawg
quote:
anyone who can look at the silencing of dissenting thought (no matter how despicable you find it) with a smile on their face is deluded. They will come for you too.
Which I’ve always thought is the paradox of progressivism and why it is ultimately a fallacy.
Point being, current progressive values are just ideas that haven’t been around long enough to be considered “hateful and outdated” by progressive ideas of the future.
re: Idea, for our beloved Forum to rise to the next level.Posted by MMauler on 1/13/21 at 8:22 am to RCDfan1950
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I would love to talk to some FBI folk
F*cking WHY?
Many of us have said for years that the damage done by Odumbf*ck wasn't so much the laws and E.O.s he implemented. Those could all be undone by the next administration.
The BIGGEST damage done by Odumbf*ck was that he made sure that every bureacracy was infiltrated with the most far left whackjob politicized filth he could find. Politico (you know, that vast right-wing bastion of journalism!!!) even did a piece back in 2010 I believe talking about how Odumbf*ck has gotten rid of every independent upper level officer in the Armed Services and replaced them with hand-picked far left ideologues who would give their lives to suck off Odumbf*ck.
And, the bureacracy he was most concerned with was the FBI. After the last 6 years, if you have any f*cking doubt that the FBI is nothing more than the Gestapo for the Democrat Party filled with far leftwing whackjobs, then you would have to be one of the most ignorant mother f*ckers to ever have lived on this planet. Think Alexander "Flounder" Vindman.
So, your "good intentions" of educating FBI folks would be completely f*cking useless. That organization is rotten to the f*cking core and Odumbf*ck made sure of it.
THAT is the REAL Odumbf*ck legacy and the one he's most proud of.
This post was edited on 1/13 at 8:28 am
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re: Idea, for our beloved Forum to rise to the next level.Posted by SSpaniel on 1/13/21 at 8:23 am to RCDfan1950
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As the essential goodness of our Debate Forum is being challenged, and threatened with censoring
Link? Has Chicken said he'll start censoring posts?
re: Idea, for our beloved Forum to rise to the next level.Posted by BiteMe2020 on 1/13/21 at 8:24 am to Robin Masters
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Which I’ve always thought is the paradox of progressivism and why it is ultimately a fallacy.
Point being, current progressive values are just ideas that haven’t been around long enough to be considered “hateful and outdated” by progressive ideas of the future.
Diversity was celebrated historically as a diversity of ideas and food choices, lol, not skin color or 57 genders.
Diversity of ideas is no longer tolerated.
re: Idea, for our beloved Forum to rise to the next level.Posted by HubbaBubba on 1/13/21 at 8:35 am to RCDfan1950
quote:I would love to see Chicken offer a FORMAL INVITATION to you to stop posting.
I would love to see Chicken offer a FORMAL INVITATION to the Left's best.
*JK - stop and think before you post.
This post was edited on 1/13 at 8:37 am
re: Idea, for our beloved Forum to rise to the next level.Posted by Celery on 1/13/21 at 8:42 am to RCDfan1950
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then why don't they choose a powerful and eloquent REPRESENTATIVE
Political ideology is a vast and often contradictory spectrum, no one representative will reflect the opinions and beliefs of each and every person. If I am center left, do I want a representative preaching the virtues of socialism? No. It’s a reflection on the actual representative form of government where we usually make some moral compromise and vote for the lesser evil. An Internet forum is a free for all where each idiot can speak their mind.
re: Idea, for our beloved Forum to rise to the next level.Posted by RCDfan1950 on 1/13/21 at 9:12 am to PsychTiger
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Not reading all of that, but I'll just keep posting sarcastically and see where that gets me.
No "sarcasm" here, PT. If the Ideological Left indeed supposes to just impose their Policy re "All Hail Chairman Biden...", then we know what is coming. And what happened up in DC is just a warmup, wherein those who resist...were naïve, and therein...beat down.
I've had to discipline (spank) my Great Grandson, as he is very rebellious. But I never do so without tears to match his, and an EXPLANATION of why I impose such violent means to usurp his own will.
Minus said 'explanation', I know I would be creating a future 'monster', who believes (by my example) that violence is indeed a justifiable means to an end.
I assume that by the DVs, this idea is a non-starter. Another one bites the dust.
re: Idea, for our beloved Forum to rise to the next level.Posted by RCDfan1950 on 1/13/21 at 9:19 am to HubbaBubba
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I would love to see Chicken offer a FORMAL INVITATION to you to stop posting.
If he does...I'll gladly stop. As a person of Faith and Spirituality, I realize that there is a LOT of negative energy in this sort of enterprise. Re..."he that warreth, does not entangleth their self in the affairs of men".
I have long assume that living in a Democracy (Constitutional version) that I am charged by Civic Responsibility, to actively engage in the process. Could be another one of my long line of blunders.
re: Idea, for our beloved Forum to rise to the next level.Posted by La Place Mike on 1/13/21 at 9:47 am to PsychTiger
quote:
Not reading all of that, but I'll just keep posting sarcastically and see where that gets me.
My sentiments, exactly.
re: Idea, for our beloved Forum to rise to the next level.Posted by JudgeHolden on 1/13/21 at 9:49 am to RCDfan1950
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RCDfan1950
What world do you live in?
re: Idea, for our beloved Forum to rise to the next level.Posted by roadGator on 1/13/21 at 9:53 am to RCDfan1950
Joe does not have dementia
Kamala would never sleep her way to the top
China is not asshoe
Obama is the best President ever and never did anything wrong.
Kamala would never sleep her way to the top
China is not asshoe
Obama is the best President ever and never did anything wrong.
re: Idea, for our beloved Forum to rise to the next level.Posted by mauser on 1/13/21 at 10:11 am to RCDfan1950
Can we just invite President Trump?
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