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"I'd Rather Be Russian" t-shirt guys defending themselves against claims of being traitors

Posted on 8/29/18 at 10:55 am
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 8/29/18 at 10:55 am
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Two men from Delaware, Ohio, who went viral after wearing custom-made T-shirts reading "I'd Rather Be A Russian Than A Democrat,” are pushing back on criticism that they are “traitors.”

Earlier this month, James Timothy "Tim" Alicie and Richard Birchfield captured national headlines after a photo of them wearing the controversial apparel at a rally for President Trump in Lewis Center, Ohio, made the rounds on social media.

Shortly after photos of the two men wearing the shirts emerged on social media, TV host Bill Maher dubbed the pair "traitors,” echoing the sentiments of many others who were critical of their pro-Russia rally attire.

"We're not traitors by any means. And we're not Russian spies or cult leaders," Alicie said told Cleveland.com in an interview published on Tuesday, though the 60-year-old added that he liked that he and Birchfield had been dubbed "Russian hillbillies."

Alicie also said that although the shirts were meant to be a joke, he believes the message behind the shirts “is kind of serious if you think about it."

"We've been working with Russia with the [International] Space Station, and doing a lot of things with Russia, not just that," Alicie said, adding that critics of the Russia shirts "need to be a lot better informed."

However, despite the barrage of complaints directed at the two men on social media about their clothes, Alicie and Birchfield told the outlet they have managed to largely avoid any negative comments about the apparel, as neither of them spend much time on the internet and both still use flip phones.

Alicie also added that not every response they’ve received about the shirts has been critical. As he pointed out in the interview, members of the Ku Klux Klan invited him and Birchfield to deliver remarks at a meeting in Columbus. But Alicie said they declined the invitation.

"I surely don't agree with any of their views," he said.

When pressed if he or Birchfield were bothered by the hate organization appearing to be in agreement with their stance on Russia, Alicie answered, "For the most part, they're probably not a hell of a lot different than anybody else. But I can't help it that they got a twisted mind the way they think about certain things."

Alicie also said the two "haven't made one nickel" from their shirts since the rally this month but are seeking to launch an online store to sell "authentic" versions of the tops.




Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 8/29/18 at 10:59 am to
Looks like fans of Auburn and Bama getting ready for the Iron Bowl

Didnt they say something like this on that War eagle 30 for 30?
Posted by Chrome
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Posted on 8/29/18 at 11:01 am to
This should go over well.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
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Posted on 8/29/18 at 11:01 am to
Is that in and of itself traitorous?

Being a Russian simply means you were born and are of russian blood.It doesn’t mean you are supportive of the russian government.
This post was edited on 8/29/18 at 11:07 am
Posted by Kentucker
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Posted on 8/29/18 at 11:02 am to
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"We've been working with Russia with the [International] Space Station, and doing a lot of things with Russia, not just that," Alicie said, adding that critics of the Russia shirts "need to be a lot better informed."


Oh, I'd say Mueller and his investigation team know that a lot of things have been done with Russia, Alice.
This post was edited on 8/29/18 at 11:04 am
Posted by MastrShake
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Posted on 8/29/18 at 11:02 am to
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Is that in and of itself traitorous? Being a Russian simply means you were born and are of russian blood.It doesn’t mean you are supportive of the russian government. If somebody came to me and said, you have to choose one or the other, become someone with russianheritage or become a democrat, I’d choose the former
wow.
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 8/29/18 at 11:04 am to
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If somebody came to me and said, you have to choose one or the other, become someone with russianheritage or become a democrat, I’d choose the former


well bully for you, traitor
Posted by Toddy
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Posted on 8/29/18 at 11:05 am to

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Earlier this month, James Timothy "Tim" Alicie and Richard Birchfield captured national headlines after a photo of them wearing the controversial apparel at a rally for President Trump

Alicie also added that not every response they’ve received about the shirts has been critical. As he pointed out in the interview, members of the Ku Klux Klan invited him and Birchfield to deliver remarks at a meeting in Columbus.


Ah, Trumpkins and KKK members
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 8/29/18 at 11:05 am to


i like how you cut off the whole saying

"i'd rather be russian than democrat"

you're such a hack. you can't even troll right.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 8/29/18 at 11:06 am to
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Oh, I'd say Mueller and his investigation team know that a lot of things have been done with Russia, Alice


Do tell...
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 8/29/18 at 11:07 am to
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Ah, Trumpkins and KKK members


Ahhhh gays and pedophiles.
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 8/29/18 at 11:08 am to
There's a character limit to thread titles, nancy.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 8/29/18 at 11:08 am to
Dude.....why are you conflating the term “Russian” with “operative of Russian government”?

It seems ridiculously jingoistic to cast more than one hundred million people as the enemy
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 8/29/18 at 11:10 am to
You're saying you'd rather be a Russian than an American.
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 8/29/18 at 11:12 am to
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There's a character limit to thread titles, nancy.


funny how you cut off the actual saying to fit your 'traitors' zinger in.
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 8/29/18 at 11:12 am to
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You're saying you'd rather be a Russian than an American.


democrats aren't americans

they HATE america
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 8/29/18 at 11:13 am to
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'traitors' zinger



How is that a zinger, dipshit? The point of the article is they are defending themselves against such claims.


Sorry/not sorry for a descriptive thread title.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 8/29/18 at 11:14 am to
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You're saying you'd rather be a Russian than an American.


Don’t you guys want to fundamentally change America into something that looks like 1980s Russia? Given your socialist leanings, I find your concern hollow.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 8/29/18 at 11:15 am to
Under that logic, if someone asks would you rather be a kkk member or a Russian, it is traitorous to choose russian?
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
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Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 8/29/18 at 11:15 am to
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It doesn’t mean you are supportive of the russian government. 


Apparently they don't understand what it's really like if disagree with the Russian government.
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