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re: I would like everyone to take note of the FBI, the IC and the opposition reaction todayPosted by ShortyRob on 2/1/18 at 2:10 pm to Robin Masters
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What I find particularly interesting is that this really shouldn’t be a partisan issue. FBI and DOJ aren’t historically dem agencies.
They aren't now.
They are what they've always been. Tools of power. Hell, CENTERS of power.
And hell, I lay the blame right where it lies. George fricking Bush emboldened them.
He did the equivalent of putting 25 horny OT 10s in the living room and told the 20 year old, "now, you can only look, you're not allowed to frick them. If you REALLY must frick them, you have to get approval.............from another 20 year old in the room.........police yourselves".
Guess what happened.
re: I would like everyone to take note of the FBI, the IC and the opposition reaction todayPosted by SCLibertarian on 2/1/18 at 2:12 pm to ShortyRob
Bill Binney and Thomas Drake had their lives turned upside down when they tried to follow procedure regarding whistleblowing. Snowden knew that. Hell, Daniel Ellsberg himself stated that the climate back when the Pentagon Papers came out and today were night and day. If Snowden didn't do what he did, we'd be none the wiser about our government's lies. The fact is that the United States goes after actual adversarial reporters in much the same manner as dictatorships around the globe. And if they can't be captured or imprisoned, their character is continuously assassinated by those in the mainstream media.
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Nunes wasn't some low level whistleblower. And he had the documents. So your analogy is bogus.
Actually, THAT's the point stupid frick. Read better.
If the IC and FBI are acting like this with a guy who DOES have access............Joe Blow ain't gonna be allowed to do it the right way.
Try reading to comprehend before reading to respond. It's a useful skill.
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The House Intel Committee can declassify classified documents.
Thanks Captain Obvious, do you think they operate in a vacuum?
Just like I said. They can declassify the supporting documents just like they declassified Nunes' memo.
Were they operating in a vacuum when they declassified the memo? Answer me that.
re: I would like everyone to take note of the FBI, the IC and the opposition reaction todayPosted by BamaCoaster on 2/1/18 at 2:14 pm to Pettifogger
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Why does he have to be a traitor or hero?
We put people in boxes in our society. It's what we do.
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Why can't he be a guy who did something useful but did it in a pretty awful way?
The point of this thread is that he did this in the only way possible, or he would have been suicided.
re: I would like everyone to take note of the FBI, the IC and the opposition reaction todayPosted by ShortyRob on 2/1/18 at 2:15 pm to SCLibertarian
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Bill Binney and Thomas Drake had their lives turned upside down when they tried to follow procedure regarding whistleblowing.
That's why I started the OP.
Friggin Nunes, whatever anyone thinks of him, is a goddamend US Congressman on the HIC. His actual JOB is oversight of these agencies. And it's full bore nukes coming at his arse.
So. I want people to remember this the next time they try to tell me that Joe Blow, who found out some bad shite.........should come forward and use official channels.
re: I would like everyone to take note of the FBI, the IC and the opposition reaction todayPosted by Tiguar on 2/1/18 at 2:15 pm to Pettifogger
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Why can't he be a guy who did something useful but did it in a pretty awful way?
Because he's the hero America deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So, we'll hunt him, because he can take it. Because he's not our hero. He's a silent guardian. A watchful protector. A Dark Knight.
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Well it's pretty freaking obvious to anyone who isn't in the Want brigade.
You can't even give an answer.
It must not be obvious to you. What brigade are you in?
quote:No shite! Now tell me big brain what would the FBI's response to that be?
They can declassify the supporting documents just like they declassified Nunes' memo.
This post was edited on 2/1 at 2:18 pm
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You can't even give an answer. It must not be obvious to you. What brigade are you in?
You're not even actually addressing the OP.
It's as if you read it, but don't know what it said.
It's like I said, "marbles are blue" and you responded with, "nuh uh, bananas are yellow". I mean, they are yellow........but it's a stupid response
This post was edited on 2/1 at 2:18 pm
re: I would like everyone to take note of the FBI, the IC and the opposition reaction todayPosted by Godfather1 on 2/1/18 at 2:19 pm to texridder
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texridder
Damn son. You sound like you’re about to cry.
re: I would like everyone to take note of the FBI, the IC and the opposition reaction todayPosted by TBoy on 2/1/18 at 2:30 pm to BamaCoaster
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Which is why Snowden was, and will always be, a fricking American hero.
Y’all do love Russian spies, don’t ya.
All the Dems and FBI have to do is release what was supposedly left out, right? They can prove the inaccuracies by publishing what is supposedly accurate.
I don’t believe for a minute that it’s a threat to national security. Why should because they say so? I can’t believe them just because of what initiated the Trump investigation which happened because of a fake DOSSIER.
I don’t believe for a minute that it’s a threat to national security. Why should because they say so? I can’t believe them just because of what initiated the Trump investigation which happened because of a fake DOSSIER.
re: I would like everyone to take note of the FBI, the IC and the opposition reaction todayPosted by SCLibertarian on 2/1/18 at 2:41 pm to TBoy
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Y’all do love Russian spies, don’t ya.
How does informing the American people about the crimes and lies their government makes one a Russian spy? People like you, who don't want any accountability or transparency in their government and who reflexively call political adversaries fearmongering names, are actually closer to the Russians in political ideology than any conservatives on this board.
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