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I sure am glad that we are raising tariffs on Canadian lumber

Posted on 6/3/21 at 8:36 am
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
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Posted on 6/3/21 at 8:36 am





Prices weren't nearly high enough already IMO. Good decision-making, Joe.

The USA has plenty of timber that is cheap but the USA lost about 100 mills between the great recession and now. Current mills can't find workers because they are being paid to stay home so what do we do? Double tariffs on the second-largest timber exporter in the world.


If you cant see by now that they want to eliminate any semblance of a middle class by killing our economy and killing small businesses then you either aren't paying attention or have to have someone tie your shoes for you.

They want the middle class wiped out. Why do you think Obama and now Biden is pushing so much to force new real estate developments to allocate a percentage of homes for low-income families? They want to lower your property values. They don't want you to make money off of your house anymore. They know housing is a wealth builder for the middle class. They want lumber to be high so you have to build smaller or buy an older existing house.

Like Trump said, "'They're not after me, they are after you'
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 6/3/21 at 8:41 am to
Watch out----lots of folks here love tariffs!!! Trump and the democrats in his administration sold them on tariffs. Trump and Biden are both tariff lovers.

"Only American saw mills should sell lumber here" they will say. "Canadian saw mills are taking American jobs!!" they will shout.

They are incapable of understanding the jobs that are created from imported inputs.
This post was edited on 6/3/21 at 8:43 am
Posted by Honest Tune
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
15514 posts
Posted on 6/3/21 at 8:42 am to
Lowes and Home Depot win bigly in this. My advice is buy from a local supplier if possible, we have a few here in Nola I do business with.
Posted by V Bainbridge
Member since Jul 2020
7795 posts
Posted on 6/3/21 at 8:44 am to
I want to be mad but prices of commodities/property going through the roof is doing nothing but making me more money. Even with inflation my assets will balloon right up with it.

All while poor people get less for their dollar. They voted for it not me so whatever I guess.
Posted by Tigerhalen
Member since May 2020
980 posts
Posted on 6/3/21 at 8:44 am to
The climate nazis don’t want any more trees cut or new homes built.
Posted by Padme
Member since Dec 2020
6136 posts
Posted on 6/3/21 at 8:45 am to
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Watch out----lots of folks here love tariffs!!! T



Funny, not funny, the equivocation argument is always some of the most lazy intellectual arguments. Apples and watermelons
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167089 posts
Posted on 6/3/21 at 8:46 am to
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Watch out----lots of folks here love tariffs!!! Trump and the democrats in his administration sold them on tariffs


You are being disingenuous. Strategic tariffs make perfect sense and you know it. What Trump did to equal out unfair trade deals was smart and strategic. It worked.

Doing this to Canadian lumber right now is dumb and makes no sense strategically.
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167089 posts
Posted on 6/3/21 at 8:47 am to
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Even with inflation my assets will balloon right up with it.


Yea same here though I am 50/50. I appreciate seeing my rental values swell but as a contractor, I have concerns obviously.
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
17423 posts
Posted on 6/3/21 at 8:48 am to
Has Joe done anything that actually benefits Americans?
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 6/3/21 at 8:49 am to
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You are being disingenuous. Strategic tariffs make perfect sense and you know it. What Trump did to equal out unfair trade deals was smart and strategic. It worked.



All BS.

My position is the same---I am against tariffs on Americans. You seem to be for them when Trump punishes us with tariffs but against them when Biden wants to do the same thing.

Protective tariff for US saw mills are no different than protective tariffs for US steel mills.

No way you would have gone along with the tariffs Trump put on Americans had it been Biden doing the same thing.

BTW we gained not a single thing from Trump tariffs---our trade deficit remains huge.
This post was edited on 6/3/21 at 8:52 am
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167089 posts
Posted on 6/3/21 at 8:54 am to
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Protective tariff for US saw mills are no different than protective tariffs for US steel mills.



Again, you are being disingenuous. You can't compare how steel mills were killed off in the USA vs sawmills.

Why do sawmills need protection currently? Timber is cheap and plentiful while lumber prices set a new ATH every day and the demand hasn't stopped. They are making money hand over fist right now.
Posted by V Bainbridge
Member since Jul 2020
7795 posts
Posted on 6/3/21 at 8:54 am to
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I appreciate seeing my rental values swell but as a contractor, I have concerns obviously.

I got lucky and did several remodels in 17-18. All were lumber heavy jobs but what I got done just a few years ago for 45k would cost well over 6 figures today. This shite is crazy.
Posted by TS1926
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
5735 posts
Posted on 6/3/21 at 8:54 am to
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Protective tariff for US saw mills are no different than protective tariffs for US steel mills.

No way you would have gone along with the tariffs Trump put on Americans had it been Biden doing the same thing.

BTW we gained not a single thing from Trump tariffs---our trade deficit remains huge.


Trump's tariffs were aimed strictly at China after years of being arse rammed by them. It was going to take time to see the benefits but of course you probably already know that. Biden's going to continue being arse rammed by China and he's gonna do it without even getting a courtesy reach around.
Posted by Lynxrufus2012
Central Kentucky
Member since Mar 2020
12058 posts
Posted on 6/3/21 at 8:57 am to
Keystone pipeline and now this. Eh?
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53435 posts
Posted on 6/3/21 at 8:59 am to
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Watch out----lots of folks here love tariffs!!! Trump and the democrats in his administration sold them on tariffs. Trump and Biden are both tariff lovers.


You are one of the most lying ignorant asses on this board.


Still clueless!


Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53435 posts
Posted on 6/3/21 at 9:02 am to
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You are being disingenuous. Strategic tariffs make perfect sense and you know it. What Trump did to equal out unfair trade deals was smart and strategic. It worked.

Doing this to Canadian lumber right now is dumb and makes no sense strategically.




He knows this. He is just an opportunist that does not give a shite about his country or fellow countrymen.

He would blow XI and bend over while costing millions in jobs if it meant he made a few extra bucks!

Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 6/3/21 at 9:03 am to
Uhhh the blowhard Trump apologist incapable of thinking for himself makes an appearance.

It is really interesting to watch you guys contort yourself in opposition of Biden tariffs after you posted so much support for Trump's tariffs on American importers.

What "lie" have I posted??



Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53435 posts
Posted on 6/3/21 at 9:04 am to
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All BS.


All 100% true.


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My position is the same---I am against tariffs on Americans. You seem to be for them when Trump punishes us with tariffs but against them when Biden wants to do the same thing.


No.. you are now lying .. again. Period.


Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
12047 posts
Posted on 6/3/21 at 9:08 am to
I know tarriffs are your jam and all. But everyone sees you conveniently leaving out the countries involved in the two scenarios you are attempting to draw parallels between.

Canada is not China. But your sad attempt to score points is noted, if that makes you feel better.


Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
45975 posts
Posted on 6/3/21 at 9:12 am to
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Watch out----lots of folks here love tariffs!!! Trump and the democrats in his administration sold them on tariffs. Trump and Biden are both tariff lovers. "Only American saw mills should sell lumber here" they will say. "Canadian saw mills are taking American jobs!!" they will shout. They are incapable of understanding the jobs that are created from imported inputs.


You've earned the title of PT Simpleton due to your simpleton posting skills. You do you IBChina.
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