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How should "the west" respond if Putin uses a nuclear weapon in Ukraine?
Posted on 9/27/22 at 8:20 am
Posted on 9/27/22 at 8:20 am
I don't believe he will because it would make that region inhabitable for decades. But let's say this conflict is prolonged because the U.S. and NATO keep feeding Ukraine weapons and Putin grows more and more frustrated leading to an escalation to the point where he uses one of his nuclear weapons to eliminate a major Ukraine city, how would "the west" react?
Back in the day (24 months ago), it was clear if Russia used a nuclear weapon the retaliation would be mutually shared destruction at a minimum. I'm not so sure about today and the current crop of western leaders beginning with Biden. If Putin's calculation is that the west will not respond in kind the risks seems greater. :dunno"
Back in the day (24 months ago), it was clear if Russia used a nuclear weapon the retaliation would be mutually shared destruction at a minimum. I'm not so sure about today and the current crop of western leaders beginning with Biden. If Putin's calculation is that the west will not respond in kind the risks seems greater. :dunno"
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Posted on 9/27/22 at 8:22 am to GumboPot
Once the nukes start flying, we are all truly fricked.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 8:22 am to GumboPot
We would completely wipe out Putin.
Ukraine is the central money laundering hub for Western Politicians.
Ukraine is the central money laundering hub for Western Politicians.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 8:23 am to GumboPot
As much as I’ve advocated not intervening, you bring nukes to a nuke fight. At that point it’s no longer about Ukraine.
TBH, a couple nukes in Ukraine might flush out some of the money laundering
TBH, a couple nukes in Ukraine might flush out some of the money laundering
Posted on 9/27/22 at 8:24 am to GumboPot
I'm all for staying out of that shitshow but you can't sit back and let someone start using nukes with no consequence. If he did that the world is going to come crashing down. Probably Russia gets hit with a couple nukes then they fire a couple at Europe and it spirals from there
Anyone living in a major city better pack up and GTFO at that point
Anyone living in a major city better pack up and GTFO at that point
This post was edited on 9/27/22 at 8:27 am
Posted on 9/27/22 at 8:26 am to Supravol22
They can't nuke Ukraine without nuking everyone else.
But hey maybe Russian leadership is so dumb they think they can get away with it.
USA has assets in the air and satellite monitoring 24/7.
They'd get cremated.
But I think people have begun to realize that Russian military assets aren't nearly as advanced as anyone thought they were.
But hey maybe Russian leadership is so dumb they think they can get away with it.
USA has assets in the air and satellite monitoring 24/7.
They'd get cremated.
But I think people have begun to realize that Russian military assets aren't nearly as advanced as anyone thought they were.
This post was edited on 9/27/22 at 8:30 am
Posted on 9/27/22 at 8:28 am to Pelican fan99
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'm all for staying out of that shitshow but you can't sit back and let someone start using nukes with no consequence. If he did that the world is going to come crashing down. Probably Russia gets hit with a couple nukes then they fire a couple at Europe and it spirals from there
This is retarded, you don't fire a "couple" of nukes. Idiot.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 8:29 am to GumboPot
I'm much more concerned about some SFX campaign where they fake a "nuke" and use sensationalized MSM coverage in the attempt to legitimize it as the whole affair is pinned on Russia.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 8:29 am to GumboPot
If nukes are used in the Ukraine, they will be used in the field to make a large hole in the line allowing the country to be overrun.
I personally believe Russia will use nukes if necessary to win the war.
After any nukes are used in the Ukraine, the odds of a nuclear WW3 ending civilization in the West and possibly world would be very, very high due to the hair trigger nature of a response and the necessity of a mass response.
I personally believe Russia will use nukes if necessary to win the war.
After any nukes are used in the Ukraine, the odds of a nuclear WW3 ending civilization in the West and possibly world would be very, very high due to the hair trigger nature of a response and the necessity of a mass response.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 8:32 am to GumboPot
Who says the nukes are pointed at Ukraine?? Why would he completely devastate a region that he hopes to ultimately get a financial gain from? The nukes could very well be pointed at any of the countries that are aiding Ukraine. He already basically has most western European countries dependent on Russian produced energy so he has a method of coercion he can use against the Western European nations, so that would leave the USA as the biggest threat to Putin and his ultimate goal.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 8:33 am to GumboPot
With Biden in the White House?
DC would probably respond by nuking Texas and Florida and blame it on Russia
DC would probably respond by nuking Texas and Florida and blame it on Russia
This post was edited on 9/27/22 at 8:34 am
Posted on 9/27/22 at 8:34 am to Tigers2010a
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WW3 ending civilization in the West and possibly world
Sadly my odds of survival are very low living in SELA with bad weather, too many people and too little food, and nothing but dirty water.
This post was edited on 9/27/22 at 8:37 am
Posted on 9/27/22 at 8:36 am to GumboPot
Dear Vlad:
Let me tell you in no uncertain terms what will happen if you nude Ukraine. For every nuke you use in Ukraine, we will be sending you three replacements in slightly used condition. Not two and not four. Exactly three. We pick the place of delivery for each.
Your move.
Let me tell you in no uncertain terms what will happen if you nude Ukraine. For every nuke you use in Ukraine, we will be sending you three replacements in slightly used condition. Not two and not four. Exactly three. We pick the place of delivery for each.
Your move.
This post was edited on 9/27/22 at 9:54 am
Posted on 9/27/22 at 8:36 am to GumboPot
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How should "the west" respond if Putin uses a nuclear weapon in Ukraine?
Invasion is a huge deal that should require response.
Nukes? That should rally the world against them, especially if the recipient country isn't a nuclear power.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 8:38 am to SlowFlowPro
For that reason the most likely scenario for nukes is that he uses them on USA and European assets supporting Ukraine, but not cities and mainland targets.
Because he and everyone else knows many of those assets are there "unofficially" and thus doesn't necessarily provoke the same unilateral response as nuking a population center.
Because he and everyone else knows many of those assets are there "unofficially" and thus doesn't necessarily provoke the same unilateral response as nuking a population center.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 8:39 am to GumboPot
It depends on what and how they are used. A few low yield tactical nukes used against military targets away from population centers will likely result in further sanctions that could include nations that have yet to participate. Nations like Iran and China would have to apply at least some sanctions.
Any use of nuclear weapons beyond a few tactical strikes on military targets would result in total international isolation. It would be economic suicide for Russia. The only way it turns into a full blown nuclear war is if Russia directly targets major Ukrainian cities and the resulting radiation blankets NATO countries.
Any use of nuclear weapons beyond a few tactical strikes on military targets would result in total international isolation. It would be economic suicide for Russia. The only way it turns into a full blown nuclear war is if Russia directly targets major Ukrainian cities and the resulting radiation blankets NATO countries.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 8:42 am to USMCguy121
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For that reason the most likely scenario for nukes is that he uses them on USA and European assets supporting Ukraine, but not cities and mainland targets.
They may as well just go for London, DC, Paris and Berlin b/c everyone will unite against them if they use nukes. Might as well make it worth it
Posted on 9/27/22 at 8:44 am to GumboPot
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I don't believe he will because it would make that region inhabitable for decades.
Nagasaki’s population was almost back to pre-war levels by 1950.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 8:45 am to oogabooga68
Potato won't do squat. He'll hide under his bed just like the coward he is. That's why putin is even considering it.
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