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re: How is this Gaetz thing not an unforced error?

Posted on 11/22/24 at 1:52 pm to
Posted by Louisianalabguy
Member since Jul 2017
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Posted on 11/22/24 at 1:52 pm to
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You want to refute it? Let's see your evidence, counselor.

Healthcare, immigration, border security, education, social issues, entitlement reform, on and on and on - what did he actually accomplish there that was 1) meaningful and 2) lasting (as in, legislatively)?

Funny, Supreme Court nominees aren't on your list.
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
41553 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 1:57 pm to
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And I imagine he would think 99% of the people on this board were scum. He's not "one of us" in any way. He's a rich kid from a political family who grew up in the Florida "swamp" and used the money and nepo baby status his dad gave him to get into Congress without ever really working a real job.

The Gaetz worship was always weird to me because he is everything the blue collar MAGA types claim to hate


Powerfully true statement from our noble board leader SFP
Posted by Gifman
Member since Jan 2021
17091 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 1:57 pm to
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AbuTheMonkey


You're on track for the melt of the day. Keep it up! I wanna see how angry you can get
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 11/22/24 at 1:58 pm to
It's an unforced error in terms of political capital, IMO. There were very legitimate reasons for R voters to not like the Gaetz pick, and I thought the value would come not only from his results in tearing up DOJ but in the command it would show if DJT got him through. I don't care about Gaetz not being AG on substance, but nobody wants to pull a pick in this manner.

I don't think it's a huge deal for Trump, but from the outset I thought it was a gamble with only a so-so payoff even if he threaded the needle.

As for Gaetz being out of the House, I personally don't care that much
Posted by Figgy
CenCal
Member since May 2020
9726 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 2:01 pm to
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There is some smoke that the Gaetz nominee was to thumb out the true RINOS’ to set the stage on who we need to primary and kick out & how we need to fight in the future knowing who the turncoats are.


Do you really need this entire event to tell you that people like Murkowski & Collins need to go? Just think about that for a couple seconds.

quote:

i like the strategy, and yes it’s not 4D Chess, this is 10D Chess, might be above some people’s IQ levels to comprehend, just saying



Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
31141 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 2:03 pm to
Gaetz announced today that he would not be in the 119th congress
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
41553 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 2:06 pm to
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As for Gaetz being out of the House, I personally don't care that much


A lot of people beat off to clip worthy public hearing beatdowns, but the whole premise of public hearings are circus theater and they just make me angry.

So even the guys on our side “owning the libs” get on my nerves, because the real magic happens behind closed doors, and nothing ever happens, except sending more checks to Ukraine, and renewing FISA laws.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
56226 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 2:12 pm to
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So what’s the reason he resigned that doesn’t have to do with quashing the ethics report? It just doesn’t make sense.


I have no clue and neither do you. What we do know is that a very hostile and weaponized DOJ couldn’t find enough to even indict. It is VERY easy to get an indictment. The rational conclusion would be nothing illegal happened. Instead, you the irrational way and conclude otherwise.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
23306 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 2:12 pm to
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So what’s the reason he resigned that doesn’t have to do with quashing the ethics report? It just doesn’t make sense.


Lets be honest, why are we stressing about this? Time will tell. If nothing happens, its most likely that Gaetz gets ousted by the report.

If Gaetz is placed elsewhere quickly than its likely it was a nothing burger.

The reality is one solution to this entire thing is that Gaetz was the scapegoat to find the Rino's or to win political points for something else. I don't think that's likely, but it is a possibility if Trump puts him elsewhere. Again, time will tell.
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
10723 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 2:12 pm to
And it’s ok for people to simply agree that Gaetz was a bad pick, and was going to be out of Congress regardless. He has a bad scandal and overall poor support for colleagues.

He could run for re-election again if he so chooses. He chose not to.
Posted by D500MAG
Oklahoma
Member since Oct 2010
3956 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 2:13 pm to
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How is this Gaetz thing not an unforced error?



Does United States Deputy Attorney General have to be confirmed by congress?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
56226 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 2:13 pm to
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You want to refute it? Let's see your evidence, counselor.


You really want me to list all of his accomplishments and highlight your complete and embarrassing ignorance?
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8527 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 2:14 pm to
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quote:
You want to refute it? Let's see your evidence, counselor.

Healthcare, immigration, border security, education, social issues, entitlement reform, on and on and on - what did he actually accomplish there that was 1) meaningful and 2) lasting (as in, legislatively)?

Funny, Supreme Court nominees aren't on your list.


Something a replacement-level Republican couldn't have done without much sweat?

Sure, toss them in there as well. Supreme Court nominees aren't as much of an accomplishment as they are course of business, but sure, you can add it.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
45945 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 2:15 pm to
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So what’s the reason he resigned that doesn’t have to do with quashing the ethics report? It just doesn’t make sense.

To take the distractions away during this critical transition would be most plausible. It’s not like he can be smeared or embarrassed by Dems much more than he already has. But ask yourself another question.
Why would they let off of a serious and unbiased ethics probe just because he pulled his name? Aren’t they interested in justice!?!?
Posted by AuburnTigers
9x National Champion
Member since Aug 2013
17432 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 2:35 pm to
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Maybe a gift to the establishment?
this is looking more likely. Trump just ousted Gaetz from politics.

What the frick. McCarthy's revenge
Posted by Louisianalabguy
Member since Jul 2017
1433 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 3:05 pm to
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Sure, toss them in there as well. Supreme Court nominees aren't as much of an accomplishment as they are course of business, but sure, you can add it

Oh, what about the de-escalation of military conflict all over the world.
Posted by oklahogjr
Gold Membership
Member since Jan 2010
40237 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 3:07 pm to
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Takes a firebrand out the House,

I get the vibe he was resigning either way.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464989 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 3:10 pm to
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Powerfully true statement from our noble board leader SFP


Posted by tadman
Member since Jun 2020
5151 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 3:11 pm to
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Trumpkins just can never admit to their cult hero making a mistake


How is he a cult hero when he had the second and third largest popular votes ever? He had a Kennedy defect to his side for Pete's sake. That's not a cult, that's a very broad public mandate.

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long list of bad hires/nominations.

yes tell us more how many GOOD hires Biden made, starting with the most useless VP running mate that historically bombed at the polls this year.

Good talk. Post less.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464989 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 3:12 pm to
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A lot of people beat off to clip worthy public hearing beatdowns, but the whole premise of public hearings are circus theater and they just make me angry.


There is a LONG list of GOP politicians who got people on here hard by doing this who are now legitimately hated by the MAGA types

Chris Christie, Terry Gowdy, etc.

It's all silly muh fight silliness.

The only thing more cringe than crowning their asses is the hyperbolic language used.

Watch him DEMOLISH this Lib

He just DECAPITATED her in this clip
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