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re: How is this Gaetz thing not an unforced error?

Posted on 11/22/24 at 12:35 pm to
Posted by Dex Morgan
Member since Nov 2022
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Posted on 11/22/24 at 12:35 pm to
I'll leave this here.

Posted by Goforit
Member since Apr 2019
8649 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 12:37 pm to
The DOJ hates Gaetz. If they had evidence to charge him with a crime they would have done it. The testimony of the accusers was not deemed credible. The problem lies with the RINO Senators.
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
10229 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 12:39 pm to
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What else are we to read into resignation other than the ethics report was really bad?


The most logical conclusion is that Gaetz thought he would be AG.

You attack people for thinking this was 4D chess when you are doing the exact same thing in the opposite direction. You run with the most negative explanation while they choose the most positive. You see the folly in their way of thinking but not your own.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
84335 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 12:41 pm to
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The most logical conclusion is that Gaetz thought he would be AG.


But why did he resign his seat? He could be a sitting House member and be the nominee for AG. He’s too savvy to not know that.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
45945 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 12:41 pm to
Or maybe just maybe he really liked gaetz for all of the reasons that we like him. He’s unapologetic, beholden to no one, and is also a victim of the deep state. Sort of a perfect Trump nominee wouldn’t you say? Perhaps the only miscalculation is thinking that he wouldn’t step aside in order to keep the heat off of the administration.
This post was edited on 11/22/24 at 12:42 pm
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
56226 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 12:44 pm to
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Good thing for Trump his opponent was the proverbial pigeon


Trump wouldn’t have beat anyone else is the new talking point? Beautiful. No self-awareness. You far left wackos aren’t able to understand the mandate the American people gave. It’s going to be a tough couple of elections for you.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
84335 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 12:47 pm to
You’re reaching, big guy. It’s universal that she was a bad candidate.

I don’t much know or care who Trump could or could not have beaten in an alternate universe. He beat a really bad, unlikeable candidate here in this universe, though. Beat her handily, too. So handily that I think you’re right it was a complete repudiation of her worldview and DEI nonsense.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
45945 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 12:47 pm to
Biden was actually polling worse than she was, and dem policies in general were being roundly rejected in all chambers of federal and state government, so I’d love to know who would have beat him.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
45945 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 12:49 pm to
Your last three candidates have been really bad and unlikeable so maybe your problem isn’t Trump.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8527 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 12:49 pm to
It’s the same story from his first term:

Trump is a superb campaigner and marketer. He is shitty administrator and operator. He’s also not much of a coalition-builder in the political sense (he’s great at it electorally, one of the best in a generation).

It’s where details and nuance matter, and Trump doesn’t particularly care for that stuff. It’s why outside of the 2017 tax bill, his first admin didn’t really get anything that was meaningful and lasting done before Covid hit.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
56226 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 12:52 pm to
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You’re reaching, big guy. It’s universal that she was a bad candidate.


You ignore the fact that the Biden DOJ couldn’t even get enough evidence for a fricking indictment, but you have concluded the ethics report is damning…and I’m reaching?


I don’t deny she was a bad candidate. I do think the insinuation that Trump wouldn’t beat someone else is foolish. Minimizing the reasons Trump won is also foolish and will continue to bite the far left wackos in the arse.
This post was edited on 11/22/24 at 12:53 pm
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
56226 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 12:53 pm to
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It’s why outside of the 2017 tax bill, his first admin didn’t really get anything that was meaningful and lasting done before Covid hit.


Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
66273 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 12:53 pm to
I thought this was a good critique of MAGA the first time around and how the machine crushed him. To his credit, I did not see him coming back from 2020.
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Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
84335 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 12:54 pm to
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You ignore the fact that the Biden DOJ couldn’t even get enough evidence for a fricking indictment, but you have concluded the ethics report is damning…and I’m reaching?


So what’s the reason he resigned that doesn’t have to do with quashing the ethics report? It just doesn’t make sense.
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
26301 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 12:58 pm to
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Because every time Trump makes a mistake, there is some esoteric plan behind the scenes that was the REAL plan.



1. EVERY single one of Trumps picks have been scrutinized by Democrats dating back to 2016.
2. Gaetz resigned almost immediately. Can you tell me another cabinet pick that did that? Im sure there have been some under somebody's admin but when and who?
3. If Schumer doesnt allow another judicial nomination to hit the floor, then you almost have to say this was a poltical chess move. Every POTUS spends their last couple of months trying to fill vacancies. Its not like it jumped up and caught the Trump admin by surprise
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8527 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 1:44 pm to
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It’s why outside of the 2017 tax bill, his first admin didn’t really get anything that was meaningful and lasting done before Covid hit.





You want to refute it? Let's see your evidence, counselor.

Healthcare, immigration, border security, education, social issues, entitlement reform, on and on and on - what did he actually accomplish there that was 1) meaningful and 2) lasting (as in, legislatively)?
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85509 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 1:47 pm to
The investigation is 3 years old though.

Everyone paying attention knew about this.



So its not like these allegations were a surprise. They are old.

Posted by Gifman
Member since Jan 2021
17091 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 1:50 pm to
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Winning the election was a pretty big 4D chess move.


It was. Good thing for Trump his opponent was the proverbial pigeon


How many Kamala signs/car stickers did you have to throw away on 11/6? I'm sure you kept your "love is love" sign up though.
Posted by Louisianalabguy
Member since Jul 2017
1433 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 1:50 pm to
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trump has a reputation for making bad picks. this didn't help. now gaetz has been forced out of the picture with a lot of stink on him. something only a democrat would love.

Yes, great head fake.
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
41553 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 1:51 pm to
I’m pretty agnostic on the Gaetz situation. I’ve been posting here a lot lately but never commented on Gaetz at all, when he was selected or now that he’s withdrawn

I will say my immediate thought when he was selected was that it could very likely be a bargaining maneuver or a distraction (because he’s an outrageous guy), however his new nomination isn’t who I would have suspected either. So I don’t really know what to make of the situation.
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