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BiteMe2020
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Member since Nov 2020
5488 posts

re: How did conservatives become so weak?
Our founding fathers knew that freedom was only for a moral people.

People who are not constrained by morals have an advantage over those who are.

As an example, can you imagine conservatives massively cheating a Presidential election in the same way Democrats just did?


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Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
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re: How did conservatives become so weak?
We certainly lost our fire. I don’t know why.

I understand the argument that we have too much to lose. We do have an obligation to our families. But so did our ancestors in 1776, and again in 1861.

They chose to fight though, because honor demanded it.


jrobic4
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Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
1219 posts

re: How did conservatives become so weak?
If the battle for civilization comes down to the wimps versus the barbarians, the barbarians are going to win.

Thomas Sowell


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BugAC
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St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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re: How did conservatives become so weak?
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Most conservatives I know do not like engaging in any sort of conflict and will avoid at all costs.


Because they are threatened with losing their jobs if they do not think "correctly". In the end, private citizens just want to live their life, go to work, and build a good life for their kids. That mindset, is considered "white privilege" nowadays. Ironically, the party that loves to scream racism, doesn't see how absurdly racist it is to think that giving a shite about your children is something only white people are privileged enough to care about.


AURaptor
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re: How did conservatives become so weak?
We can thank George W. Bush for this ‘decency’ nonsense. He is the one who refused to lift a finger and defend himself for 8 years , thinking it beneath the office of the President .

Even Karl Rove came out and admitted afterwards that it was a bad decision .


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McChowder
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Hammond
Member since Dec 2006
4458 posts

re: How did conservatives become so weak?
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How did conservatives become so weak?

We were prepared to fight our battles in the arena of ideas.

Progressives then bought all the property around that arena and blocked the roads only allowing traffic they approved of to enter.



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cardboardboxer
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Member since Apr 2012
33047 posts

re: How did conservatives become so weak?
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Now I think we need to give up immediate concerns about "conservative versus liberal" and focus on America versus globalist state because if there's a fight left to have, that's it.


You are about 20-30 years too late to that fight too. The globalists won, Americans won’t give up their cheap shite and 2 day Prime delivery.

That is the real problem: too many conservatives fight battles that are already lost and then get discouraged. Like fighting against abortions after the Supreme Court ended that debate, or fighting gay marriage when it was already a forgone conclusion and the real battle was over terminology.

There is a lot to still fight for: our right to privacy, the right to control the data collected about us, the right to have success be rewarded and failure be punished. But these battles will be lost by the time the Titanic called the political conservative movement pivots to these issues.


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jrobic4
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Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
1219 posts

re: How did conservatives become so weak?
Ironically (or perhaps not), the one group that is in the position to resist, self-employed small business owners, are under the greatest attack. $15 minimum wage, increased taxes, shutdowns against they will, and general villainization


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Lima Whiskey
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re: How did conservatives become so weak?
Perhaps this is what Tolkien meant when he wrote about the strength of men. Even in his time, it was failing.
This post was edited on 2/23 at 9:28 am


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Zach
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re: How did conservatives become so weak?
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My county voted Trump approximately 70%, however driving around in October, the yard signs were about Biden or BLM 7/10 the reverse.


Here in Bossier the yard signs were 100% Trump.


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keks tadpole
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re: How did conservatives become so weak?
Conservatives are sovereign individuals.
Liberals are beholden to the sovereign party.
One million acting as a group, vs four million individuals.
Who is the weakest?


Gatorbait2008
Florida Fan
Member since Aug 2015
21777 posts

re: How did conservatives become so weak?
Need less cowards at the top. Desantis is the new direction we must go. His policies are somewhat moderate, but he absolutely does not back down. He calls out the bull shite immediately.


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Zach
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re: How did conservatives become so weak?
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Conservatives are sovereign individuals. Liberals are beholden to the sovereign party.


This is absolutely true. When I first got a computer I joined FreeRepublic. One guy started a thread: 'What is the collective opinion of this board on (subject)?'

He got greeted with 'We're conservatives. We don't have collective opinions.'


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oldskule
USA Fan
Member since Mar 2016
2512 posts

re: How did conservatives become so weak?
Conservatives are CANCELED at every turn....MSM, DC SWAMP, Big Tech, and large corporations are making sure of that!

It's current day propaganda, and is here to stay. They will destroy themselves over time.


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concrete_tiger
Member since May 2020
886 posts

re: How did conservatives become so weak?
For one, we don't breed as quickly as they do. Our numbers aren't increasing.

Our kids go into professional fields, their kids go into "journalism" and "education," and get the shape current and future generations.

Once you control the message, and your numbers are overwhelming, there's really not much you can do.

T


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tjv305
Florida Fan
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9724 posts

re: How did conservatives become so weak?
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I understand the argument that we have too much to lose. We do have an obligation to our families. But so did our ancestors in 1776, and again in 1861.


We should be fighting for our family’s now. Our kids and grandkids will be the ones paying for us standing down . The longer we let this go on the more power the deep state will have.


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Flats
Georgia Tech Fan
Member since Jul 2019
6615 posts

re: How did conservatives become so weak?
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Their focus was pork. The left's focus was taking over institutions that influence thought.


You almost could have stopped right there. Excellent summary.


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Seldom Seen
USA Fan
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re: How did conservatives become so weak?
It's because too many conservatives care too much about what the left wing media are gonna say about them. They care too much about trying to win over the enemy rather than defeat them.


zeebo
LSU Fan
Member since Jan 2008
4700 posts

re: How did conservatives become so weak?
Years of affluent culture will do it every time.


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