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re: How did conservatives become so weak?

Posted on 2/23/21 at 8:44 am to
Posted by BiteMe2020
Texas
Member since Nov 2020
7284 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 8:44 am to
Our founding fathers knew that freedom was only for a moral people.

People who are not constrained by morals have an advantage over those who are.

As an example, can you imagine conservatives massively cheating a Presidential election in the same way Democrats just did?
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19058 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 8:45 am to
We certainly lost our fire. I don’t know why.

I understand the argument that we have too much to lose. We do have an obligation to our families. But so did our ancestors in 1776, and again in 1861.

They chose to fight though, because honor demanded it.
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
6789 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 8:47 am to
If the battle for civilization comes down to the wimps versus the barbarians, the barbarians are going to win.

Thomas Sowell
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52731 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 8:47 am to
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Most conservatives I know do not like engaging in any sort of conflict and will avoid at all costs.


Because they are threatened with losing their jobs if they do not think "correctly". In the end, private citizens just want to live their life, go to work, and build a good life for their kids. That mindset, is considered "white privilege" nowadays. Ironically, the party that loves to scream racism, doesn't see how absurdly racist it is to think that giving a shite about your children is something only white people are privileged enough to care about.
Posted by AURaptor
South
Member since Aug 2018
11958 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 8:54 am to
We can thank George W. Bush for this ‘decency’ nonsense. He is the one who refused to lift a finger and defend himself for 8 years , thinking it beneath the office of the President .

Even Karl Rove came out and admitted afterwards that it was a bad decision .
Posted by McChowder
Hammond
Member since Dec 2006
5214 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 9:00 am to
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How did conservatives become so weak?

We were prepared to fight our battles in the arena of ideas.

Progressives then bought all the property around that arena and blocked the roads only allowing traffic they approved of to enter.

Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 9:03 am to
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Now I think we need to give up immediate concerns about "conservative versus liberal" and focus on America versus globalist state because if there's a fight left to have, that's it.


You are about 20-30 years too late to that fight too. The globalists won, Americans won’t give up their cheap shite and 2 day Prime delivery.

That is the real problem: too many conservatives fight battles that are already lost and then get discouraged. Like fighting against abortions after the Supreme Court ended that debate, or fighting gay marriage when it was already a forgone conclusion and the real battle was over terminology.

There is a lot to still fight for: our right to privacy, the right to control the data collected about us, the right to have success be rewarded and failure be punished. But these battles will be lost by the time the Titanic called the political conservative movement pivots to these issues.
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
6789 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 9:07 am to
Ironically (or perhaps not), the one group that is in the position to resist, self-employed small business owners, are under the greatest attack. $15 minimum wage, increased taxes, shutdowns against they will, and general villainization
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19058 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 9:09 am to
Perhaps this is what Tolkien meant when he wrote about the strength of men. Even in his time, it was failing.
This post was edited on 2/23/21 at 9:28 am
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112363 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 9:49 am to
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My county voted Trump approximately 70%, however driving around in October, the yard signs were about Biden or BLM 7/10 the reverse.


Here in Bossier the yard signs were 100% Trump.
Posted by keks tadpole
Yellow Leaf Creek
Member since Feb 2017
7561 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 9:53 am to
Conservatives are sovereign individuals.
Liberals are beholden to the sovereign party.
One million acting as a group, vs four million individuals.
Who is the weakest?
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
22953 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 9:56 am to
Need less cowards at the top. Desantis is the new direction we must go. His policies are somewhat moderate, but he absolutely does not back down. He calls out the bullshite immediately.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112363 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 9:58 am to
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Conservatives are sovereign individuals. Liberals are beholden to the sovereign party.


This is absolutely true. When I first got a computer I joined FreeRepublic. One guy started a thread: 'What is the collective opinion of this board on (subject)?'

He got greeted with 'We're conservatives. We don't have collective opinions.'
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
15476 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 10:02 am to
Conservatives are CANCELED at every turn....MSM, DC SWAMP, Big Tech, and large corporations are making sure of that!

It's current day propaganda, and is here to stay. They will destroy themselves over time.
Posted by concrete_tiger
Member since May 2020
5942 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 10:21 am to
For one, we don't breed as quickly as they do. Our numbers aren't increasing.

Our kids go into professional fields, their kids go into "journalism" and "education," and get the shape current and future generations.

Once you control the message, and your numbers are overwhelming, there's really not much you can do.

T
Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
12494 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 11:13 am to
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I understand the argument that we have too much to lose. We do have an obligation to our families. But so did our ancestors in 1776, and again in 1861.


We should be fighting for our family’s now. Our kids and grandkids will be the ones paying for us standing down . The longer we let this go on the more power the deep state will have.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21650 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 11:16 am to
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Their focus was pork. The left's focus was taking over institutions that influence thought.


You almost could have stopped right there. Excellent summary.
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
39990 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 11:27 am to
It's because too many conservatives care too much about what the left wing media are gonna say about them. They care too much about trying to win over the enemy rather than defeat them.
Posted by zeebo
Hammond
Member since Jan 2008
5193 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 11:56 am to
Years of affluent culture will do it every time.
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