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Posted on 4/21/19 at 9:34 pm to CelticDog
quote:perversion? link?
the perversion of Jesus' confession, "I and the father are One" That is false teaching, of which there is no basis
quote:nope. they were afraid because they were jesus' followers and the leaders wanted to stamp out the movement. it's like you haven't even read acts 4-6
the early followers were scared of being crucified for the same crime. Heresy. Claiming to be god
quote:which is?
failed to be open to the big truth
quote:but he did say it. it's there in quotes. repeated by the patristics. not refuted by any literature from antiquity that i am aware of
condemned him for something he didn't say
quote:yes. have you ever seen the scutum fidei? do you know what the hypostatic union is?
You think Jesus was a separate thing. Son of God but a guy
quote:negative ghostrider. that's modalism. totally false. just ask t.d. jakes who was converted from it by jack graham
he was one with the All and not apart in any way
quote:link?
And so are we all
Posted on 4/21/19 at 9:36 pm to genuineLSUtiger
quote:those people merely worship what scripture says as reflected in the reformation and the orthodox creeds. it's not like they are right because of their denomination or that they have divined some mysterious truth. individuals in other denominations believe the same creedal doctrines as southern baptists even if their praxis differs slightly
Only Southern Baptists worship the one true God
Posted on 4/21/19 at 9:38 pm to genuineLSUtiger
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Only Southern Baptists worship the one true God
Spoken like a true southern Baptist... smh. I'm agnostic and am fine with Christian's but you southern baptists are something special and not in a good way.
Posted on 4/21/19 at 11:03 pm to PEPE
quote:Muhammad didn't start Islam. It had been around for a long long time.
Islam was started by a warlord
Posted on 4/21/19 at 11:04 pm to ELVIS U
quote:None of the witnesses for the declaration of Independence are alive.
Your presumption is that the Christian sources of information are accurate and therefore public and the other sources are inaccurate. While I may agree with the conclusions, none of these witnesses are still alive so I think your point could never be proven.
Posted on 4/21/19 at 11:12 pm to hawgfaninc
I remember reading Hitchen's years ago, his conclusion was that Arabs were feeling left out.
They weren't Jews, they weren't Christians and they had no religion.
He contends that the religion was fabricated by Muhammad or his followers and that it was borrowed from other religious texts, and the hadith was taken from common maxims and sayings which developed throughout Arabia and Persia at the time.
As far as Mormonism, I think South Park covered that pretty succintly.
They weren't Jews, they weren't Christians and they had no religion.
He contends that the religion was fabricated by Muhammad or his followers and that it was borrowed from other religious texts, and the hadith was taken from common maxims and sayings which developed throughout Arabia and Persia at the time.
As far as Mormonism, I think South Park covered that pretty succintly.
Posted on 4/22/19 at 6:09 am to LSUconvert
Were you wearing your bomb vest when you typed that?
Posted on 4/22/19 at 8:30 am to RebelExpress38
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The other proof to me is that all his disciples died horrific deaths for their faith in him. If they heard him speak and believed, and watched him die, but never actually saw him come back like he said, why would they become martyrs for something they knew to be fake? It might make sense for 1 or 2 of them to keep up the story but all of them?
I have seem some Christ Myth theorists contend that the 12 Apostles were also mythological, but that makes the whole Christ Myth Theory even shakier. Once you say the Apostles were also myths, then you also have to assume that the hundreds of students of the Apostles who were dispersed over thousands of miles, and spoke several different languages, organized the early church crafted the new testament, and disseminated consistent teachings without any real means to communicate with one another.
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