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re: House Intelligence Committee releases DEM rebuttal to FISA memo

Posted on 2/24/18 at 6:47 pm to
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42475 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 6:47 pm to
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blacked out Hillary and the DNC's names to "protect their privacy."


Hillary is entitled to a lot of protection - she'd be wearing orange jumpsuits for decades now if not for government protection.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
17437 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 6:48 pm to
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so the fisa court did not know it was bought and paid for by the dnc and hillary campaign.


Exactly, “Leaking” Schiff needs to just admit that this things stinks to high heaven. Of course he won’t.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42475 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 6:53 pm to
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Schiff needs to just admit that this things stinks to high heaven




The DEMs are now saying that the dossier not important at all = just a little tidbit tossed in there to make the folder more bulky. Nope - not important at all. Don't even think about the dossier. Just a pile of junk.

HEY look over THERE!!!!!

Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
17437 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 6:58 pm to
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The DEMs are now saying that the dossier not important at all = just a little tidbit tossed in there to make the folder more bulky. Nope - not important at all. Don't even think about the dossier. Just a pile of junk.


And yet we have “Andy” admitting to the HIC that the warrant wouldn’t have been granted without the dossier.....somehow I think the liberals and the MSM have forgotten this little nugget
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
4383 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 7:15 pm to
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This not true. By law they are able to unmask if it would help with understanding the context and relevance of the information. It was a choice to protect privacy.


Unmasking is only supposed to be done if it’s necessary to understand the context of foreign intelligence information in order to protect the US against an attack or for the national defense. It’s incredibly rare and is done by high ranking intelligence/defense officials, not in court procedings. Unmasking the Clinton campaign or the DNC isn’t necessary for our national defense.
Posted by Kriegschwein
Alemania
Member since Feb 2015
855 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 7:18 pm to
If they would have seen Hillary on anything, they would have known immediately that it was BS and laughed the FBI out of the super secret courtroom.

That’s the real reason they COULDNT unmask it. Lol
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14164 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 7:21 pm to
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Papadapalas boasting in a bar that "Russians had dirt on Hillary" is what triggered the initial investigation.

Papadopoulos said the Russians had Hillary's emails.

Do you think those two things are the same?

At least try to be honest.


Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14164 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 7:28 pm to
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Nice deflection. The only reason they left her name off is because there is no fricking way on earth the judge would have granted the warrant based on evidence supplied by the front runner of the presidential campaign against her opponent. Even without naming the Trump campaign, the target and the motivation would have been crystal clear


Damn. We didn't know you were an expert on FISA applications and what the Court considers when it decides on approving an application.

Why didn't you tell us sooner?
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Posted by IllegalPete
Front Range
Member since Oct 2017
7182 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 7:35 pm to
Unmasking is related to spying/data collection right?

What does unmasking have to do with revealing who paid for the primary document in your FISA application?

Is that even an appropriate term to use in this instance?
This post was edited on 2/24/18 at 7:36 pm
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14164 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 7:38 pm to
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Which now doesn't hold water now that we know that Millian and Paps were working together. Millian was also working with Steele on the dossier.

Millian was connected to Michael Cohen, Trump's lawyer. What are you talking about?
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14164 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 7:40 pm to
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This memo isn't good for Democrats AT ALL

Polly want a cracker?
Posted by Friscodog
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2009
4448 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 7:53 pm to
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Unmasking is only supposed to be done if it’s necessary to understand the context of foreign intelligence information in order to protect the US against an attack or for the national defense. It’s incredibly rare and is done by high ranking intelligence/defense officials, not in court procedings. Unmasking the Clinton campaign or the DNC isn’t necessary for our national defense.


House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes, R-Calif., has questioned whether Obama officials improperly sought the names of Trump transition members in this way – and, in the letter obtained by Fox News, Nunes provided new details about what his investigators have found.

[T]his Committee has learned that one official, whose position has no apparent intelligence-related function, made hundreds of unmasking requests during the final year of the Obama Administration,” he wrote to Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats.

Only one request, Nunes wrote, “offered a justification that was not boilerplate and articulated why” the identity was needed for official duties.


Doesn't appear that the Obama admin cared about individuals being unmasked. Appears they wanted to do much of it, and all republicans.


LINK
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
6440 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 10:48 pm to
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The dossier was just a small piece of the case laid out to FISC, whatever the relevant section of the dossier was, they had to have had it corroborated in another piece of evidence.


Like a Yahoo News article written with information supplied by the same guy that made the dossier?
Posted by Rex
Here, there, and nowhere
Member since Sep 2004
66001 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 11:08 pm to
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And yet we have “Andy” admitting to the HIC that the warrant wouldn’t have been granted without the dossier.....somehow I think the liberals and the MSM have forgotten this little nugget

Your little nugget is not true according to witnesses.
Posted by Rex
Here, there, and nowhere
Member since Sep 2004
66001 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 11:15 pm to
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McCabe testimony in December that the fisa warrant would have never been issued without the dossier.

There's no such testimony.

eta: Fox lies. Fox lies constantly. Devin Nunes lies. Devin Nunes lies constantly.


This post was edited on 2/24/18 at 11:18 pm
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