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Having family and friends who think different politically…
Posted on 6/26/21 at 2:26 am
Posted on 6/26/21 at 2:26 am
Im on board with most people here and am a very fair person, but there comes a point when I dont know how to respond to some people. Ive heard the whole “frick what they think and speak your mind….” But Its advantageous most times. .I think I’ll get some people that agree that we have to be the bigger man.
My close spectrum of people in family are with me on most politics, but its so hard when people you love are so advocative about stuff. I know this isnt new news, but holy shite its an every day boundary I have to swarm around. This is job related too. The speak your mind stance doesnt work either.
I wish I lived in the 70s where social media didnt frick with peoples minds. Im clearly venting while asking for help, but this is all fricked.
Its like playing chess with checker pieces…
My close spectrum of people in family are with me on most politics, but its so hard when people you love are so advocative about stuff. I know this isnt new news, but holy shite its an every day boundary I have to swarm around. This is job related too. The speak your mind stance doesnt work either.
I wish I lived in the 70s where social media didnt frick with peoples minds. Im clearly venting while asking for help, but this is all fricked.
Its like playing chess with checker pieces…
This post was edited on 6/26/21 at 2:35 am
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Posted on 6/26/21 at 2:30 am to Ryan3232
My sister told me today she hated Ben Shapiro and Alex Jones. Damn near blocked her number
I would never actually do that, but it’s definitely hard having close family disagree with you in a political sense. Especially when politics go hand in hand with morals nowadays.
I would never actually do that, but it’s definitely hard having close family disagree with you in a political sense. Especially when politics go hand in hand with morals nowadays.
Posted on 6/26/21 at 2:31 am to Ryan3232
I stay away from any family or friends that I know voted for Biden.
Posted on 6/26/21 at 2:32 am to Hailstate15
quote:Earlier in my life I never thought about getting to the point of losing family over politics, and I still dont want that, but I feel like its out of my hands if I speak my mind. Aka I agree with what you said and it sucks.
My sister told me today she hated Ben Shapiro and Alex Jones. Damn near blocked her number
I would never actually do that, but it’s definitely hard having close family disagree with you in a political sense. Especially when politics go hand in hand with morals nowadays.
Posted on 6/26/21 at 2:47 am to Ryan3232
Just my opinion, but I think holding your tongue just prolongs the bullshite, keeps some things in a holding pattern that are going to have to play out if this country is ever going to again resemble the nation it was designed to be.
Look at it this way - Leftists aren’t sitting around telling each other they better cool the rhetoric in order to not offend/alienate the Right. And by the way, they’re the ones that can’t handle a different opinion.
It’s actually part of how we got to this f’d up place. The Right has been way too slow responding, way too patient and accommodating.
I think we have to get an order of magnitude or more aggressive in how we engage liberals. You can love the shite out of your sister or brother and remind them every chance you get that they voted for a child molester with dementia hell bent on turning their country into a 3rd world shithole.
Look at it this way - Leftists aren’t sitting around telling each other they better cool the rhetoric in order to not offend/alienate the Right. And by the way, they’re the ones that can’t handle a different opinion.
It’s actually part of how we got to this f’d up place. The Right has been way too slow responding, way too patient and accommodating.
I think we have to get an order of magnitude or more aggressive in how we engage liberals. You can love the shite out of your sister or brother and remind them every chance you get that they voted for a child molester with dementia hell bent on turning their country into a 3rd world shithole.
Posted on 6/26/21 at 2:48 am to burke985
quote:let me take it to a level of understanding. Imagine having an 18 year old daughter who thinks you’re a piece of shite for being a trump advocate or even if he doesnt advocate it. You’ll talk your sense to her, but of course she isnt having it because her friends, teachers, and media have instilled in her brain that her dad is a piece of shite for thinking the way he does. (Im not in this boat luckily, but I have multiple friends who are).
I stay away from any family or friends that I know voted for Biden.
So tough…..
This post was edited on 6/26/21 at 2:49 am
Posted on 6/26/21 at 2:52 am to David_DJS
quote:agreed. We’ve let shite get the way it has and are too late to be dicks about it because it makes us the “assholes.”
It’s actually part of how we got to this f’d up place. The Right has been way too slow responding, way too patient and accommodating.
That correlates to my point of how to handle family. I agree with you 100%. Well said.
Posted on 6/26/21 at 2:57 am to Ryan3232
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Imagine having an 18 year old daughter who thinks you’re a piece of shite for being a trump advocate
Time for some tough love or that oft-needed come to Jesus moment.
One of the reasons all the bulllshit in the country is happening is because as a nation, we are way too fat and happy. Same can be said for the vast majority of American homes.
This post was edited on 6/26/21 at 2:59 am
Posted on 6/26/21 at 2:58 am to Ryan3232
My family is full of liberal pussies. Everything is based on emotion, and Trump is the meanest, cruelest, most evil human being on the planet. It's so fricking sad to see how weak minded your own family is. It's just constant CNN bullshite and victimization mentality on display 24/7, it really is a religion to the liberal ideology. The amount of entitlement is startling from a group of people who, frankly, really haven't done shite with their lives. They truly think everything in life should be given, nothing earned.
Posted on 6/26/21 at 3:12 am to Ryan3232
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(Im not in this boat luckily, but I have multiple friends who are).
Whew, I was gonna say. Was gonna say pics. But pics of friends' daughters instead?
Seriously tho, and this is apparently going to be an unpopular opinion, but if you have no real shot at actually changing a person's position(s) by way of debate and discussion, then why bother? At that point it will only bother you if you allow it to.
Sometimes you really do just have to avoid it with some folks. Why get your blood pressure up for no good reason? The only reasonable possibility at that point is to hope for it to be a phase and for it to pass, and if that doesn't work, then there's nothing further one can do. Being harsh or being an a-hole isn't going to do a thing but create even more frustration.
Posted on 6/26/21 at 3:33 am to davyjones
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if you have no real shot at actually changing a person's position(s) by way of debate and discussion, then why bother? At that point it will only bother you if you allow it to. Sometimes you really do just have to avoid it with some folks. Why get your blood pressure up for no good reason?
Well, you don’t know what kind of impact you’re having, really. Moreover, how are people with f’d up views ever going to realize it’s their views that are f’d up if they’re never told so .... probably multiple times.
Also, why would your blood pressure go up? I can get my blood pumping in a political debate but it’s more like excitement of competition, it’s not getting pissed off/angry.
Posted on 6/26/21 at 3:33 am to Ryan3232
I have family members that are democrats and most that are republicans and I love all of them. My best friend is a huge Trump supporter and I don't like Trump, we still get a long just fine. Outside of the internet we aren't all that different, we are all just people. Good people are good people regardless of their politics.
Me too brother, the social media experiment has gone horribly wrong. Cable news isnt much better. Both are a detriment to society.
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I wish I lived in the 70s where social media didnt frick with peoples minds
Me too brother, the social media experiment has gone horribly wrong. Cable news isnt much better. Both are a detriment to society.
This post was edited on 6/26/21 at 3:39 am
Posted on 6/26/21 at 3:53 am to David_DJS
What I'm referring to is the uselessness of the situation once you have said all you can a reasonable number of times. It would seem to get weird after a while, having the same unchanging conversation over and over, yeah no? And as far as blood pressure is concerned, if you're able to very calmly have that conversation over and over with a person who's frequently dismissive of your views, then I will admit that's impressive. But probably in the minority, not majority.
This post was edited on 6/26/21 at 3:57 am
Posted on 6/26/21 at 4:07 am to davyjones
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having the same unchanging conversation over and over, yeah no?
The political landscape is changing so fast, and there are events/stories all the time so the discussion doesn’t have to be the same every day. But set this part of the thread aside for a moment and entertain a question -
How did a country that as few as ten years ago considered itself more conservative than liberal, had strong positive opinions about capitalism relative compared to socialism, believed that for the most part we (as a nation) were post-racial - how did that country turn into what it is now culturally/politically? There wasn’t a war or some big ugly event that made half of this country lose their minds, so what was it if not for the Left winning millions of discussions/debates in al sorts of forms and on all sorts of platforms? - probably the majority of them by default because the Right doesn’t like to show up.
Posted on 6/26/21 at 4:08 am to Ryan3232
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let me take it to a level of understanding. Imagine having an 18 year old daughter who thinks you’re a piece of shite for being a trump advocate or even if he doesnt advocate it. You’ll talk your sense to her, but of course she isnt having it because her friends, teachers, and media have instilled in her brain that her dad is a piece of shite for thinking the way he does. (Im not in this boat luckily, but I have multiple friends who are).
So tough…..
If his grown daughter just constantly brings it up to him that he is a bad guy because of who he voted for then she is being unreasonable and there's not much you can do, she is for sure the one in the wrong though, hopefully she will grow out of it.
My dad voted for Bush Jr. and I hated Bush Jr. but we still got along, I didnt try to change his mind and he didnt try to change mine on the matter of who we voted for, we just didnt talk about it. There is way more to life than politics.
This post was edited on 6/26/21 at 4:32 am
Posted on 6/26/21 at 4:19 am to David_DJS
To your question, I'd like to say that I do believe you make a good point, but ultimately I think the one thing that precipitated the loss of minds more than ever before, the thing that made that half of the country drop the hammer on craziness, was OMB winning. And many in that half may have been shaken to their core so badly by Trump that they may be lost forever.
This post was edited on 6/26/21 at 4:31 am
Posted on 6/26/21 at 4:31 am to davyjones
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was OMB winning. And many in that half may have been so shaken to their core by Trump that they may be lost forever.
But wasn’t that the result of a lot of words? Trump wasn’t literally Hitler before 2016.
Posted on 6/26/21 at 4:40 am to David_DJS
Anybody that votes for the people trying to destroy the country are no family or friend of mine.
Posted on 6/26/21 at 4:45 am to David_DJS
Sure, the result was a lot of words, but the words before Trump were of course there at that point as well, but there was a bit more of a feeling of rational discourse then, than there is now. Which now the words from the other side are, as much as they can muster, vindictive, insulting, condescending, dismissive etc., and with no intent on listening to anything. It's as if they're zombies.
Posted on 6/26/21 at 4:46 am to Ryan3232
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18 year old daughter who thinks you’re a piece of shite for being a trump advocate
My mom and dad (in their 70’s) despise Trump and his supporters.
I supported Trump and I know where that puts me in their eyes.
They have msnbc or cnn on all the time…the media has successfully brainwashed these people.
I don’t talk politics with them but they can’t help but bring it up. It’s tough to stomach, but it also hurts to see the amount of hate someone can have, especially at that point in life.
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