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re: Hagia Sophia is reconstituted as a mosque; it's no longer a museum
Posted on 6/29/22 at 9:22 pm to real turf fan
Posted on 6/29/22 at 9:22 pm to real turf fan
It was built as a church. It will always be a church, regardless of how it's used now.
Posted on 6/29/22 at 9:56 pm to GnashRebel
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If they had recognized papal supremacy none of this would have happened. We take care of our own.
Better the turban than the miter.
We lost a church, but kept the Church.
This post was edited on 6/29/22 at 9:57 pm
Posted on 6/29/22 at 9:58 pm to The Ramp
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well they did have THREE genocides.
All of which they still deny.
Posted on 6/29/22 at 9:59 pm to Fat Bastard
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Oh.. the Midnight Express days...
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Wow! A Georgio Moroder fan. Never know what you'll find on TD.
Posted on 6/29/22 at 10:02 pm to Loserman
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Hopefully, you're not referring to Istanbul as a shithole, because its anything but.
It was a shithole when I was there in the early 1980s
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Oh.. the Midnight Express days...
I was there the week the Marines had their Barracks Truck Bombed in Beirut. We left Istanbul and then did gunfire support for 86 straight days off the coast of Beirut, while the marines were evacuated
Wow! No wonder you have such poor association with Istanbul.
Thanks for your service.
Posted on 6/29/22 at 10:03 pm to LRB1967
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This is cultural appropriation
That Mickey Mouse balloon at the top of the dome simply cries out CULTURAL APPROPRIATION.
Posted on 6/29/22 at 10:04 pm to AggieHank86
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1000 years as a cathedral. 500 years as a mosque. 80 years or so as a museum.
I don't recall it being an overly impressive museum.
Posted on 6/29/22 at 10:14 pm to SCLibertarian
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Yeshua
His full name in his time would have been Yeshua ben Yosef: Jesus son of Joseph, since Joseph was legally considered his father.
Posted on 6/29/22 at 10:15 pm to touchdownjeebus
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I’m sure the Muslim brotherhood would welcome you with open arms.
That’s not really Istanbul. I stayed there for about 3 months. Left right before the 2016 military coup.
Other than Turkey being on shaky ground politically and having an insane Monterrey policy….Istanbul is amazing. One of my favorite cities.
Posted on 6/29/22 at 10:18 pm to real turf fan
You know how when your spend more than a week in Europe, and all the cathedrals start to look the same?
This one is the exception.
Something of a shithole, IMHO
This one is the exception.
Something of a shithole, IMHO
Posted on 6/29/22 at 11:41 pm to real turf fan
but muslims never invaded europe. that's blasphemy. infidel.
Posted on 6/29/22 at 11:47 pm to real turf fan
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damage has been done elsewhere
Bet it’s permanent too.
Posted on 6/30/22 at 2:38 am to DesScorp
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His full name in his time would have been Yeshua ben Yosef: Jesus son of Joseph, since Joseph was legally considered his father.
Actually, Joshua son of Joesph as Yeshua translates to Joshua.
Posted on 6/30/22 at 7:02 am to gothamdawg
Memories are long and transferred generationally. There's a rather large Greek community in Melbourne Australia where my great grandfather migrated to and the older folks there are semi insane when you mention Turks....or even Russians. There is an intense dislike for both.....for different reasons.
Posted on 6/30/22 at 7:07 am to real turf fan
If you want to read about a slaughter, read about the conquering of Constantinople, especially the attack on the Hagia Sofia.
Posted on 6/30/22 at 7:31 am to real turf fan
This is what happens when you support the mohammedans in a war against Roman Catholic Europe.
Posted on 6/30/22 at 7:40 am to DesScorp
quote:In Hebrew, yes.
His full name in his time would have been Yeshua ben Yosef: Jesus son of Joseph, since Joseph was legally considered his father.
But Yeshua’s first language was almost certainly Aramaic, yielding Yeshua bar Yusef … rather than Yeshua ben Yusef.
Posted on 6/30/22 at 8:52 am to LRB1967
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It was built as a Christian church by Emperor Justinian. This is cultural appropriation.
Begun by Constantine to become the world's first massive domed structure that placed it as one of the 7 Wonders of the Modern World.
Is it at all beyond the realm of possibility that St. Peter's in Rome could eventually meet the same end.
Posted on 6/30/22 at 6:50 pm to Loserman
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Hopefully, you're not referring to Istanbul as a shithole, because its anything but.
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It was a shithole when I was there in the early 1980s
It is amazing to me that some basement dwellers, who have never been anywhere or ever done anything, will argue with someone who has first hand experience with something.
Posted on 6/30/22 at 6:52 pm to TrueTiger
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Was this the price of having Turkey OK Finland and Norway to NATO?
Norway is a founding member of NATO, and Hagia Sophia has been a mosque (again) for some time now.
This post was edited on 6/30/22 at 6:53 pm
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