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Group in Colorado county seeks secession from state to join Wyoming
Posted on 1/29/21 at 10:29 am
Posted on 1/29/21 at 10:29 am
quote:Hill
A group of disenfranchised Colorado residents are exploring the possibility of annexing from their home state and changing boundary lines so their entire county becomes part of Wyoming.
Christopher “Todd” Richards is leading the effort with his “Weld County Wyoming" political committee, created last February, according to local outlet Fox 31 KDVR.
The organization is working to get a measure added to the November 2021 ballot that would encourage county commissioners to “engage and explore the annexation of Weld County with the State of Wyoming's Legislature.”
The purpose of the measure is to “get out from under the thumb” of Colorado’s more liberal government, according to the group’s Facebook page.
“Denver and Boulder have declared war not only on Weld County, but common sense itself with regulations designed to kill energy jobs,” according to one November post. “Putting radical animal rights activists in positions of power over the ranching industry, two of Weld’s key economic drivers. They are also at war with small businesses. People who hold traditional values are vilified as racist homophobic (misogynist) bigots.”
An online petition, which currently has more than 8,400 signatures, also cites concerns about 2nd Amendment rights.
"Denver/Boulder have drove weapons manufacturers out of the state," the petition states. "Rural schools, hospitals and all rural communities are getting ignored. Denver/Boulder only care about Denver/Boulder."
Richards acknowledged that the process would be “long” and “daunting.”
“Can this be done? Yes, it can be done. Is it going to be easy? No,” Richards said during a meeting posted to YouTube in November.
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Posted on 1/29/21 at 10:30 am to Bobby OG Johnson
Cities/counties being free agents.....I support
Posted on 1/29/21 at 10:31 am to Bobby OG Johnson
Freedom.
Posted on 1/29/21 at 10:32 am to Wtodd
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Cities/counties being free agents.....I support
We're getting to a point where I'd be up for listening to proposals where heavy urban areas became independent of the state they're in. Like Atlanta being an independent city from Georgia.
Virginia does this on the city/county scale. All cities in virginia are autonomous and counties merely surround them geographically but not in governance.
ETA: Areas with very small geographic footprint are starting to dominate where if you don't live in a city you just get overwhelmed by their politics.
This post was edited on 1/29/21 at 10:33 am
Posted on 1/29/21 at 10:33 am to jlovel7
Awesome!!!
Posted on 1/29/21 at 10:35 am to Bobby OG Johnson
International Law supports self-determination of peoples.
It is in Article 1 of the UN Charter.
The U.S. is a signatory to the Charter.
Therefore by law the U.S. supports self-determination of peoples (secession).
Note: In 1861 this would not have been the answer because the U.S. was not part of such an international pact.
It is in Article 1 of the UN Charter.
The U.S. is a signatory to the Charter.
Therefore by law the U.S. supports self-determination of peoples (secession).
Note: In 1861 this would not have been the answer because the U.S. was not part of such an international pact.
Posted on 1/29/21 at 10:36 am to Bobby OG Johnson
Gonna see more of this.
Posted on 1/29/21 at 10:36 am to jlovel7
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We're getting to a point where I'd be up for listening to proposals where heavy urban areas became independent of the state they're in. Like Atlanta being an independent city from Georgia.
Agreed. We need city-states. If you live in Upstate NY or the non-Chicagoland parts of Illinois, you have no voice in state politics and your vote doesn't matter.
Posted on 1/29/21 at 10:48 am to TrueTiger
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International Law
Is nothing but a meaningless fiction.
Posted on 1/29/21 at 10:50 am to VADawg
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We need city-states
I agree. Germany does this with their largest cities, I think it would work well in a federation such as ours.
Posted on 1/29/21 at 11:04 am to Wtodd
States should all have the right to leave the United States. It shouldn't be easy, but if 90% of the state votes for it for two or 3 years in a row, then they should be able to depart the Union.
Would we have ever fricked Alaska over the ANWAR, if they could have just pulled out of the Union? (or better analogy, forced the Union to pull out of them?)
Would we have ever fricked Alaska over the ANWAR, if they could have just pulled out of the Union? (or better analogy, forced the Union to pull out of them?)
Posted on 1/29/21 at 11:06 am to Bobby OG Johnson
Depending on where they are they may be able to slide into Texas. Some of us are wanting ALL of Texas back, not just the current borders.
Ski Texas anyone?
Ski Texas anyone?
Posted on 1/29/21 at 11:10 am to Bobby OG Johnson
frick Denver/Boulder
Posted on 1/29/21 at 11:11 am to Mid Iowa Tiger
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Depending on where they are they may be able to slide into Texas. Some of us are wanting ALL of Texas back, not just the current borders.
Ski Texas anyone?
I think Louisiana came first.
Posted on 1/29/21 at 11:13 am to mmcgrath
There isn't that much overlap and since you all are stuck with Biden's USA...
Posted on 1/29/21 at 11:15 am to Bobby OG Johnson
Alaskan Independence Party
Aloha ?Aina Party (Hawaii sovereignty)
Aloha ?Aina Party (Hawaii sovereignty)
This post was edited on 1/29/21 at 11:30 am
Posted on 1/29/21 at 11:16 am to Indefatigable
quote:Senatorial representation?quote:I agree. Germany does this with their largest cities, I think it would work well in a federation such as ours.
We need city-states
Do you deprive city dwellers of it?
If each city-state gets senatorial representation (even if it is only one senator), let's look at Texas. We would probably have at least four city-states with populatations exceeding 1mm: Houston, DFW, San Antonio, Austin ... plus maybe the RGV and El Paso (for six). They are separated by hundreds of miles, so you cannot combine them (except maybe San Antonio & Austin, but San Marcos and New Braunfels won't like that).
You have just given the urban areas probably 3x the senatorial representation of rural Texas, and they ALL go Blue.
Currently, the large GOP minority in the cities is able to vote with the rural areas to form a majority. That would NOT happen under this city-state idea.
This post was edited on 1/29/21 at 11:29 am
Posted on 1/29/21 at 11:17 am to Mid Iowa Tiger
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Ski Texas anyone?
You want a non-starter
Posted on 1/29/21 at 11:44 am to Bobby OG Johnson
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Group in Colorado county seeks secession from state to join Wyoming
Yep, I live in Weld county and hope like heck, this happens.
Posted on 1/29/21 at 12:08 pm to LuckyTiger
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Gonna see more of this
x100!!! Places like Eastern Washington and Eastern Oregon are trying to become part of Idaho! This is going to start happening all over. If Democrats add DC and PR...then the people in these areas should be allowed to have their representation as well. The rural/urban divide is real!!
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