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Grifter Wilbur Ross says what IB has been saying about the goals of trade war

Posted on 6/26/19 at 6:47 pm
Posted by I B Freeman
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Posted on 6/26/19 at 6:47 pm
In an interview this morning Ross said basically what I have been telling you folks. He said the goals were

1) something to reduce the deficit like soybeans and LNG (it is not a huge priority and you can see he referred to commodities that China can easily buy from us if the price is right)

2) IP theft--this is primarily a China issue. (He talks latter in the interview about Huawei and theft of IP under our laws and you can tell that is separate from the trade talks--he knows we can deal with that if we want too by simply banning the company)

3) ending forced partnerships in China.

So you can see even your idol is saying this is more about doing business in China than jobs in America. He didn't even mention jobs in America.

Fox Business Interview with Ross

She was remiss in not asking him about steel tariffs on all importers from any country.
This post was edited on 6/26/19 at 6:48 pm
Posted by The Pirate King
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Posted on 6/26/19 at 6:48 pm to
No thanks
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 6/26/19 at 6:49 pm to
Shut up, nerd
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 6/26/19 at 6:49 pm to
There is no need for you to learn anything from the interview. Don't watch it.
Posted by YumYum Sauce
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Posted on 6/26/19 at 6:51 pm to
Asperger's syndrome personified
Posted by Big Chipper
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Posted on 6/26/19 at 6:51 pm to
frick off c unt.
Posted by Barneyrb
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Posted on 6/26/19 at 6:52 pm to
So there are 2 dumbazzes on tariffs?
Posted by DTRooster
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Posted on 6/26/19 at 6:52 pm to
That’s correct. Hard pass on the spam
Posted by Crow Pie
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Posted on 6/26/19 at 6:55 pm to
I do not know who has more credibility at this point ....Little Johnny of crying wolf fame or our resident "tax/credit/tariff bad" drum beater
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 6/26/19 at 6:59 pm to
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I do not know who has more credibility at this point


I am right on tariffs and right on film welfare.

Why is what I post not credible to you??

Post a link to something that I have posted that proven to not be credible? I almost always open the thread with facts and links to back them up.
Posted by Backinthe615
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Posted on 6/26/19 at 7:03 pm to
Referring to yourself in 3rd person really is the next logical step.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 6/26/19 at 7:04 pm to
Only did it in the OP.

Is that all you got?
Posted by Wtxtiger
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Posted on 6/26/19 at 7:07 pm to
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Shut up, nerd


I would LOVE to see a picture of this dude. Can you imagine this worm in real life?

The whole point in this is to decrease the trade deficit and to make sure we can still produce the needed military materials needed to protect this country from what is the greatest state threat to the life of this nation. If we don’t stop China we will decline just like the U.K. did.
Posted by OceanMan
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Posted on 6/26/19 at 7:07 pm to
I don’t care what the subject matter is, you are just a bad poster
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 6/26/19 at 7:20 pm to
Horrible obviously.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 6/26/19 at 7:23 pm to
quote:

The whole point in this is to decrease the trade deficit and to make sure we can still produce the needed military materials needed to protect this country from what is the greatest state threat to the life of this nation. If we don’t stop China we will decline just like the U.K. did


I post you a friggin interview with your man Ross and this is what you say the point is after viewing that interview??

How do you people come to these positions you have??

Perhaps a more accurate post from you would have been:

I HOPE the whole point in this is to decrease the trade deficit......and so on.
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 6/26/19 at 7:25 pm to
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doing business in China


Begats

quote:

jobs in America
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
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Posted on 6/26/19 at 7:26 pm to
IB Freeman
Did not read
Downvoted
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 6/26/19 at 7:31 pm to
quote:

He talks latter in the interview about Huawei and theft of IP under our laws and you can tell that is separate from the trade talks--he knows we can deal with that if we want too by simply banning the company


Well I say he is wrong concerning Huawei...period.

The communist government (probably their military) is who is allegedly in control of Huawei (and every other Chinese company for that matter).
In short, a "new" company (still most likely under control by the same people that probably control Huawei) will simply fill the void (imho).

To argue otherwise shows either a high degree of ignorance, or a gross lack of objectivity (a lack of integrity due to personal bias?) imho.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 6/26/19 at 8:04 pm to
He wasn't being easy on Huawei. I got the impression he wants to deal with stuff like on a case by case basis.

I don't like Ross but he didn't exaggerate the goals of the 301 tariffs and made a point to say the goals WAS NOT to hurt China or "win or lose" something.

I really don't know how so many people got the impression that the trade war is some substitute for war with an enemy and would result in a huge increase in jobs in the USA like most of critics here seem to think.

My entire argument has been the goals were not worth the punishment of Americans with tariffs. The goals if accomplished will benefit multinational US companies and the Chinese. I have also said that it is trade war that will not be easy to win and thus far that is true.

I do not support government interfering with the commerce of the people. If China or anyone else wants to tariff their people I do not care. If they want to subsidize industries and sell us stuff cheaper let them---somewhere along the line they have to make a profit. They are taking from something in their economy to subsidize any particular industry. There will ALWAYS be differences in economies that result in differences in the prices of resources between economies. We will never have evenly priced labor or evenly price capital world wide. We will never stop having currency manipulation--we manipulate ours all the time. Trump understands that too--he just whines about China to deflect criticism that his tariffs actually strengthen the dollar.
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