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re: Governor Landry pushes for use of public funds for private or home schools
Posted on 5/17/24 at 7:33 pm to 4cubbies
Posted on 5/17/24 at 7:33 pm to 4cubbies
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Calling it service implies you donated your time. It’s a job. You chose to get paid by the military instead of getting a different job. It’s not really “service.” It was a job. You were paid.
Being that you can get blown up doing that job, that you can't just decide to quit that job if you don't like the way it's going on any particular day, and that the US Armed Forces pretty much dictates your life choices during your term, it has little in common with just about any other job I can think of.
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Posted on 5/17/24 at 7:35 pm to 4cubbies
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the compulsory aspect is the justification for public funding. If that were removed, I don’t see a valid argument for public funding but I think that would also result in the destruction of society.
You realize that we had society for a hell of a long time before we had compulsory mass public education, right?
Posted on 5/17/24 at 7:39 pm to 4cubbies
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Childcare primarily.
When the essential function that public schools supply that we can't do without is babysitting, we've got a pretty huge problem on our hands.
Posted on 5/17/24 at 7:40 pm to wackatimesthree
We also had society for a very long time before social security. What would happen if we took that away?
Posted on 5/17/24 at 7:41 pm to wackatimesthree
I agree. But the vast majority of families cannot survive on a single income so they rely on schools to supervise their children while they work.
Posted on 5/17/24 at 7:41 pm to 4cubbies
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I really don’t care how old you are. Or how much melanin your skin has.
Or whether he's a man or a woman?
Then why do you talk about those things all the time?
Posted on 5/17/24 at 7:42 pm to 4cubbies
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We also had society for a very long time before social security. What would happen if we took that away?
People would know that they couldn't count on those things and make different choices.
Just like they did before we had them.
Posted on 5/17/24 at 7:43 pm to wackatimesthree
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Being that you can get blown up doing that job, that you can't just decide to quit that job if you don't like the way it's going on any particular day, and that the US Armed Forces pretty much dictates your life choices during your term, it has little in common with just about any other job I can think of.
The USA military hasn’t protected American interests since WW2. The military protects business interests now and it’s disgusting. Someone willingly risking their life to enrich politicians is not noble in my book.
Posted on 5/17/24 at 7:43 pm to 4cubbies
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I agree. But the vast majority of families cannot survive on a single income so they rely on schools to supervise their children while they work.
If they homeschooled instead of sending them to school they could both work and still educate their children. I know several families who did this. It's easier than ever with the online resources available.
Posted on 5/17/24 at 7:44 pm to wackatimesthree
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People would know that they couldn't count on those things and make different choices.
Is that all you think would happen? Some disappointed seniors?
Posted on 5/17/24 at 7:46 pm to wackatimesthree
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If they homeschooled instead of sending them to school they could both work and still educate their children. I
How does someone work full time and homeschool simultaneously? Or work full time while supervising and engaging with multiple children of various ages? How would a surgeon or accountant or lawyer do that? Or a hairdresser or waitress?
Posted on 5/17/24 at 7:47 pm to 4cubbies
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The USA military hasn’t protected American interests since WW2
You're like the rightist populists here that you argue with.
Just because someone makes money from military conflict does not mean that it wasn't necessary or that American citizens' interests weren't served by doing it.
Multiple things can be true at the same time.
I'd say relatively little military conflict is purely for the benefit of the people who ordered it. Most of it makes the world a better place to live for American citizens. And someone profits from it.
Posted on 5/17/24 at 7:48 pm to 4cubbies
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The USA military hasn’t protected American interests since WW2.
You've definitely called wounded Marines and soldiers baby killers at some point in your life.
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Someone willingly risking their life to enrich politicians is not noble in my book.
Teachers are the real heroes.
Posted on 5/17/24 at 7:50 pm to wackatimesthree
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Most of it makes the world a better place to live for American citizens.
How did invading Iraq benefit Americans?
Posted on 5/17/24 at 7:51 pm to 4cubbies
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How does someone work full time and homeschool simultaneously? Or work full time while supervising and engaging with multiple children of various ages? How would a surgeon or accountant or lawyer do that? Or a hairdresser or waitress?
The families I have seen do it prioritize making it happen, so they work jobs that allow schedules that facilitate the ability to do it. Often they do not work in their degree field.
It only takes 3-4 hours a day to do what takes 8 hours at school.
And again, people would make different choices if public babysitting didn't exist. They probably wouldn't have as many children, for example. And jobs would also allow for it, just like they adapted to allowing people to work at home during COVID.
Posted on 5/17/24 at 7:55 pm to 4cubbies
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Is that all you think would happen?
Is that not what happened before it existed?
Posted on 5/17/24 at 8:03 pm to 4cubbies
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How did invading Iraq benefit Americans?
Do you know what the word "most" means?
(Hint, it means not all.)
It's easy to point at Iraq now and claim a populist conspiracy theory (like the idiot rightist populists on the board do) but the truth is that Iraq had a historical precedent that makes it very plausible for me to believe that we had genuine hopes of improving the situation in the region by invading.
The Korean War seemed like a morass without any gain for quite some time. But looking at South Korea now, having given the situation some time, I believe we had hopes of a similar result in Iraq.
Yes, the opposite actually happened. Instead of installing a democracy and strengthening the country by getting rid of Saddam Hussein, it ended up strengthening and emboldening Iran with no democratic gains in the region.
But agin, just because a certain result happened, that doesn't mean we had no purpose there but to make money.
That's what the low-IQ people who believe that the government can control the weather default to.
Posted on 5/17/24 at 8:03 pm to 4cubbies
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How did invading Iraq benefit Americans?
Ever been to Iraq?
Posted on 5/17/24 at 8:11 pm to wackatimesthree
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Do you know what the word "most" means?
OK… how did invading Iraq benefit most Americans?
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Yes, the opposite actually happened. Instead of installing a democracy and strengthening the country by getting rid of Saddam Hussein, it ended up strengthening and emboldening Iran with no democratic gains in the region.
This is how most Americans benefited?
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But agin, just because a certain result happened, that doesn't mean we had no purpose there but to make money.
The stated purpose was to find nonexistent WMDs.
Posted on 5/17/24 at 8:14 pm to wackatimesthree
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Is that not what happened before it existed?
Civilization survived for centuries without electricity so getting rid of that would also be a breeze, right?
You realize that when society molds after it has become accustomed to certain aspects, it’s not simple to just take those aspects away, right?
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