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re: God Emperor: Illegals should be deported with "no judges or court cases"
Posted on 6/24/18 at 8:57 pm to brouski
Posted on 6/24/18 at 8:57 pm to brouski
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And do you often jog around the Southern US Border? Through the middle of the desert Southwest, during night, along with 13-30 of your closest friends and their kids?
Are you under the impression that's the only place ICE can stop you? They do checkpoints on the Interstate in places like New Hampshire.
So you or he jog along the New Hampshire interstate system too? In shorts, without any ID? Sounds even riskier than the SW Desert the way people drive.
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Posted on 6/24/18 at 8:58 pm to kingbob
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We cannot give our government an inch or they will take a mile.
Then build the damn wall and stem a vast majority of the flow!
Posted on 6/24/18 at 8:58 pm to Pussykat
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Y’all make it sound like they are immediately dumped across the border ( ) I don’t know, please explain
If there is no due process, I guess it’s up to whoever makes the arrest. If someone cuts him off in traffic he can take their ID and run them to Matomoros. If all deportation is immediate, and there are no hearings or judges, all power is in the hands of each agent.
I guess the point is, we can’t explain because the proposal is for giving complete power to ICE agents. What would it look like? I don’t know, but ICE agents would have total power over you and me.
This post was edited on 6/24/18 at 9:00 pm
Posted on 6/24/18 at 9:01 pm to Pussykat
I am a US citizen, 11th generation on one line (Sons of the Revolution). The most-recent immigrant (from anywhere) in my bloodline was five generations ago. But I have a naturally dark complexion (Czech heritage on another line), and I speak fluent Spanish. I do not alwys carry my wallet.
Under Trump’s moronic proposal, an ICE agent could see me on the street shopping in Del Rio, take a dislike to me, ask for my ID, take me into custody for lack of an ID and then dump my arse in Acuna ... leaving me in the position of trying to contact my nearest relative 300 miles away to help me get back into my own country.
If you do not see the problems in such a system, you are simply too stupid to deserve further discussion.
Under Trump’s moronic proposal, an ICE agent could see me on the street shopping in Del Rio, take a dislike to me, ask for my ID, take me into custody for lack of an ID and then dump my arse in Acuna ... leaving me in the position of trying to contact my nearest relative 300 miles away to help me get back into my own country.
If you do not see the problems in such a system, you are simply too stupid to deserve further discussion.
This post was edited on 6/24/18 at 9:05 pm
Posted on 6/24/18 at 9:03 pm to Antonio Moss
Man you libs are fricking terrible.
Posted on 6/24/18 at 9:07 pm to AggieHank86
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Under Trump’s moronic proposal,
It is NOT a proposal.
It is the current law of the land. The law has not been enforced as such for various reasons over the course of the YEARS.
The last line of the law Norris linked is the dates of enactment and amendment: "[62 FR 10355, Mar. 6, 1997, as amended at 64 FR 8494, Feb. 19, 1999; 65 FR 82256, Dec. 28, 2000; 69 FR 69497, Nov. 29, 2004] " GovRegs.com
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(ii) No entitlement to hearings and appeals. Except as otherwise provided in this section, such alien is not entitled to a hearing before an immigration judge in proceedings conducted pursuant to section 240 of the Act, or to an appeal of the expedited removal order to the Board of Immigration Appeals.
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(5) Claim to lawful permanent resident, refugee, or asylee status or U.S. citizenship - (i) Verification of status. If an applicant for admission who is subject to expedited removal pursuant to section 235(b)(1) of the Act claims to have been lawfully admitted for permanent residence, admitted as a refugee under section 207 of the Act, granted asylum under section 208 of the Act, or claims to be a U.S. citizen, the immigration officer shall attempt to verify the alien's claim.
This post was edited on 6/24/18 at 9:13 pm
Posted on 6/24/18 at 9:08 pm to Dale51
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Do you know of any instance where a citizen has been deported for not being a citizen?
I'd imagine due process helps prevent that scenario from happening.
If you remove due process you will have citizens being deported in error. That's almost inevitable and why the idea is stupid.
Posted on 6/24/18 at 9:11 pm to Sidicous
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It is NOT a proposal. It is the current law of the land. The law has not been enforced as such for various reasons over the course of the YEARS.
Wow, if no due process was the law of the land someone would have mentioned it. I mean that whole repeal of the federal constitution and every state constitution as well. I guess it’s possible I missed that but I doubt it.
Posted on 6/24/18 at 9:20 pm to TBoy
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Wow, if no due process was the law of the land someone would have mentioned it. I mean that whole repeal of the federal constitution and every state constitution as well. I guess it’s possible I missed that but I doubt it.
Signed into law by William Jefferson Clinton, last amended 3 years into GW Bush 1st term.
Posted on 6/24/18 at 9:21 pm to TBoy
The bottom line is if you're brown, you better have your ID on you at all times.
If you don't have it, you deserve to be deported. We don't need to waste time and resources in court because you can't prove that you don't deserve deportation. There are more important things going on than appeasing people that can't prove they shouldn't be deported.
If you don't have it, you deserve to be deported. We don't need to waste time and resources in court because you can't prove that you don't deserve deportation. There are more important things going on than appeasing people that can't prove they shouldn't be deported.
Posted on 6/24/18 at 9:23 pm to AggieHank86
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If you do not see the problems in such a system, you are simply too stupid to deserve further discussion.
Hey AH you don’t need to talk to me like that, I asking a sincere question about procedure: what exactly is “due process”?
Posted on 6/24/18 at 9:24 pm to JuiceTerry
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The bottom line is if you're brown, you better have your ID on you at all times
Heil Trump!
Posted on 6/24/18 at 9:27 pm to papasmurf1269
The immigration problem is more serious than most people realize. What's scary is that about 100 18-wheelers filled w/ smuggled human cargo are seized every year on Texas highways. Many of the occupants of these tractor trailers are found dead or unconscious as a result of heatstroke.
Posted on 6/24/18 at 9:28 pm to Antonio Moss
Are non citizens that have not gone through the processes of immigration control on U.S. soil?
Posted on 6/24/18 at 9:30 pm to AggieHank86
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If you do not see the problems in such a system
If I don't see the problem in the system you've created in your head?
Posted on 6/24/18 at 9:31 pm to TBoy
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The bottom line is if you're brown, you better have your ID on you at all times
Heil Trump!
For following a Democratic Presidents' Law and Policy that has survived multiple amendments and multiple One World Globalist and Furher, er further, Democratic POTUS, over 20 years worth of implementation.
You go Tboy with your denigration of the actual Nazi Atrocities committed against innocent Jews! Jews who were actual citizens of the German nation (and other occupied locations) at the time.
When they go low, Tboy goes lower! And by "they" I mean Hitler and the 3rd Reich, you just went lower than them kid.
Posted on 6/24/18 at 9:34 pm to Sidicous
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For following a Democratic Presidents' Law and Policy that has survived multiple amendments and multiple One World Globalist and Furher, er further, Democratic POTUS, over 20 years worth of implementation.
You go Tboy with your denigration of the actual Nazi Atrocities committed against innocent Jews! Jews who were actual citizens of the German nation (and other occupied locations) at the time.
When they go low, Tboy goes lower! And by "they" I mean Hitler and the 3rd Reich, you just went lower than them kid.
Low T Boy just got destroyed
Posted on 6/24/18 at 9:41 pm to Pussykat
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what exactly is “due process”?
Having a court verify they are in fact aliens for one.
Posted on 6/24/18 at 9:43 pm to Sidicous
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the immigration officer shall attempt to verify the alien's claim.
Oh good. I am sure the CBP agent that made the mistake will surely always report himself.
What could go wrong?
Posted on 6/24/18 at 9:43 pm to Sidicous
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(ii) No entitlement to hearings and appeals. Except as otherwise provided in this section, such alien is not entitled to a hearing before an immigration judge in proceedings conducted pursuant to section 240 of the Act, or to an appeal of the expedited removal order to the Board of Immigration Appeals.
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(5) Claim to lawful permanent resident, refugee, or asylee status or U.S. citizenship - (i) Verification of status. If an applicant for admission who is subject to expedited removal pursuant to section 235(b)(1) of the Act claims to have been lawfully admitted for permanent residence, admitted as a refugee under section 207 of the Act, granted asylum under section 208 of the Act, or claims to be a U.S. citizen, the immigration officer shall attempt to verify the alien's claim.
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