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are you alright with living in a country where the gigantic majority of people are either fabulously wealthy or dirt poor?
No one in this country is dirt poor. Well, I guess you could make a case for the homeless.
Our poor are fat. Have cars. Have cell. Phones. Have computers. Multiple kids. A roof over their head. Never have to wonder where their next meal is coming from.
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that is where we're headed, if you look at all the data available to us
Any day you wanna come back with logical arguments, I’ll be here buddy. Stop with the hyperbolic emotional drivel.
re: Glad to see NOLA following the long list of Dem cities that are Paradise on EarthPosted by Taxing Authority on 11/18/19 at 12:56 pm to HT713
quote:Nope.
that is where we're headed, if you look at all the data available to us
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read up on what happened this year with WeWork. the owner ran a massive fricking scam, walked away a billionaire, and didn't break a single law in the process
Don't act like that is the standard and also how convenient you leave out the idiot VCs that financed that and didn't do their due diligence.
WeWork billed itself as a tech company and VCs treated it as one and gave it a stupid valuation.
The guy had iron-clad contracts that could have been negotiated but they weren't. That was an all-around failure.
re: Glad to see NOLA following the long list of Dem cities that are Paradise on EarthPosted by Bayou_Tiger_225 on 11/18/19 at 12:57 pm to HT713
There are some counties that can have success using a democratic socialist society. Those countries are very small, almost 100% homogeneous, and highly educated. For example, many countries that use the Nordic model(Denmark, Norway, etc.) are smaller, MUCH less diverse, and more educated than New York City.
The model isn't scalable to counties that are as populated and diverse as the United States.
The model isn't scalable to counties that are as populated and diverse as the United States.
re: Glad to see NOLA following the long list of Dem cities that are Paradise on EarthPosted by HT713 on 11/18/19 at 12:59 pm to Taxing Authority
explain this to me then broseph
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oh and since we have to show our work here, here's a link showing all of the citations for each stat
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oh and since we have to show our work here, here's a link showing all of the citations for each stat
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Our poor are fat. Have cars. Have cell. Phones. Have computers. Multiple kids. A roof over their head. Never have to wonder where their next meal is coming from.
Yea wonder if he has ever traveled to a 3rd world country and left the tourist areas. That is dirt poor. Not what we claim to be poor in the USA.
Are you saying our poor are actually poor? Wanna see what ACTUAL poverty looks like? Go to Southeast Asia. Go to Africa. Go to Central America and South America. You’ll find ACTUAL poor people there.
Save the homeless, you won’t find any poor people in America. Just people rife with bad decision making and a less lavish lifestyle. But to call them poor is an insult to TRUE poor people across the globe.
Save the homeless, you won’t find any poor people in America. Just people rife with bad decision making and a less lavish lifestyle. But to call them poor is an insult to TRUE poor people across the globe.
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This is a myth.
There are only rare exceptions
Rare exceptions?
Guess that depends on your definition of wealthy but to deny that anyone can build a viable business in America is being purposely obtuse.
re: Glad to see NOLA following the long list of Dem cities that are Paradise on EarthPosted by Taxing Authority on 11/18/19 at 1:05 pm to HT713
quote:Anything that tried to use a chart of the top marginal rate over time is immediately dismissible as dishonest.
explain this to me then broseph
No one paid those rates. And the actual share of taxes paid by “the rich” has increased over time, not lowered.
Care to see a co art of transfer payment over that (roughly) same time period?
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Are you saying our poor are actually poor? Wanna see what ACTUAL poverty looks like? Go to Southeast Asia. Go to Africa. Go to Central America and South America. You’ll find ACTUAL poor people there.
His basis for his statment are a group of charts that show a downturn at the same time the economy hit a huge recession due to the housing crisis.
His charts don't show anything past 2012 (I wonder why)
re: Glad to see NOLA following the long list of Dem cities that are Paradise on EarthPosted by HT713 on 11/18/19 at 1:06 pm to Taxing Authority
sure let's see it.
re: Glad to see NOLA following the long list of Dem cities that are Paradise on EarthPosted by Bayou_Tiger_225 on 11/18/19 at 1:08 pm to beerJeep
quote:I regret that I only have one upvote to give you.
Save the homeless, you won’t find any poor people in America. Just people rife with bad decision making and a less lavish lifestyle. But to call them poor is an insult to TRUE poor people across the globe.
re: Glad to see NOLA following the long list of Dem cities that are Paradise on EarthPosted by HT713 on 11/18/19 at 1:11 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
I think it's intellectually dishonest to say, "hey our poor people aren't as poor as the people in china so they should stop complaining about it"
I mean do you think that, "hey your taxes may be high but they're higher in denmark so you have no right to complain" would be a fair justification for raising your taxes?
I mean do you think that, "hey your taxes may be high but they're higher in denmark so you have no right to complain" would be a fair justification for raising your taxes?
re: Glad to see NOLA following the long list of Dem cities that are Paradise on EarthPosted by Taxing Authority on 11/18/19 at 1:12 pm to HT713
Apparently “the rich” are doing it wrong.
This post was edited on 11/18 at 1:14 pm
re: Glad to see NOLA following the long list of Dem cities that are Paradise on EarthPosted by MetrySaint24 on 11/18/19 at 1:18 pm to moneyg
Lots of white “republicans” in Lakeview and Mid City voted for JBE. I was and am surprised by how many people I know down here who voted for him. A lot of lawyers, a lot of Catholic league grads like myself who have an over inflated opinion of their own intelligence and class and felt it was beneath them to vote for Rispone, it’s bizarre to talk to these people I’ve know my whole life and figure out what the hell they are doing. I had a lengthy argument/discussion with one of them a few weeks ago at a bar about it. He’s a lawyer, he started out with a bunch of philosophical bs, by the end of the discussion he had conceded that JBE was just better for him and his profession currently bc he had several outstanding cases and he didn’t want a change in the current policy towards oil companies etc. He wanted the hours and the money to keep flowing. It’s also the Republican Party’s fault for running a guy that came off as a cartoon character on stage. You simply have to run a better candidate, JBE was there to be beaten. It goes both ways, Dems are still trying to concoct all the reasons Trump beat Hillary when it really boils down to Hillary was a shitty candidate and deserved to lose.
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