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Gavin Newsome signs sweeping criminal protection act
Posted on 8/20/19 at 11:38 am
Posted on 8/20/19 at 11:38 am
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Posted on 8/20/19 at 11:39 am to Strannix
So criminals and illegal immigrants good, and good-hearted productive American citizens bad? Got it.
This post was edited on 8/20/19 at 3:29 pm
Posted on 8/20/19 at 11:41 am to Peter Venkman
Basically ambiguous language so criminal charges can be brought against the police in any use of force scenario
Posted on 8/20/19 at 11:42 am to Strannix
I like it.
Can't wait until cops say frick it and leave.
Can't wait until cops say frick it and leave.
Posted on 8/20/19 at 11:43 am to Peter Venkman
Are they making another Escape from____ movie? Or is this going to be real?
Posted on 8/20/19 at 11:45 am to Strannix
Posted on 8/20/19 at 11:47 am to Strannix
frick being a cop.
Posted on 8/20/19 at 11:50 am to Strannix
quote:get out of here with your lazy bullshite snipe. Cops are ridiculously quick to use deadly force. Cops who are so scared need to find different careers. Cops can be cops without pulling a gun for every little thing. Stop worshiping the blue and grow a brain. Cops are not your friends.
Basically stripping the police from acting against criminals.
Posted on 8/20/19 at 11:50 am to Strannix
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The new law will allow police to use deadly force only when "necessary" to defend against an imminent threat of death or serious injury to officers or bystanders
So what's the problem here?
Posted on 8/20/19 at 11:50 am to Strannix
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Basically stripping the police from acting against criminals.
I don’t think that’s accurate. This law appears to require there to be a threat before an officer fires his weapon.
No more “well, he moved after I told him not to - and could have been reaching for something - so out of an abundance of caution, I killed him”.
Thinking of that dude that got mowed down by swat while crawling on all 4s begging not to get shot in a hotel hallway. Cop never saw a gun, but fired.
If this gets rid of the “fire first, check later”, I’m fine with it. I firmly believe cops need to see a weapon or have confirmation that a weapon is on the person before opening fire.
Edit: All of you who are downvoting are fine with execution by cop for not following instructions? What if you’re drunk? Disabled? Can’t hear? You’re dead?
Some of you people are scary.
Edit 2: 25 downvotes, but not a single reply to tell me where I’m wrong?
This post was edited on 8/20/19 at 7:04 pm
Posted on 8/20/19 at 11:51 am to arcalades
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Cops are not your friends.
Posted on 8/20/19 at 11:54 am to Peter Venkman
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So criminals and illegal immigrants good, and productive American citizens bad?
You have no idea. in SF in particular, bums can practically kill someone (and in many instances have!) and get off scot free. But, have an actual working man lay out a bum for getting too aggressive and they get the book thrown at them.
Have seen it many times. Very sad what the left is doing out here.
Posted on 8/20/19 at 11:57 am to BuckyCheese
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Cops are not your friends.
They might be, they might not be. The problem is that you don't know. If the cops don't know if you're a good guy or a bad guy they're cautious and assume you're a bad guy. I recommend treating them the same way; with caution and skepticism.
Posted on 8/20/19 at 11:57 am to 0
More dead cops
Even though you probably don’t care some would consider that a problem
Even though you probably don’t care some would consider that a problem
Posted on 8/20/19 at 12:00 pm to Strannix
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The new law will allow police to use deadly force only when "necessary" to defend against an imminent threat of death or serious injury to officers or bystanders.
How is this different than current law? Are they allowed to use deadly force when its unnecessary? That sounds awful. The cops still have plenty of leeway to decide what's necessary.
Posted on 8/20/19 at 12:02 pm to gthog61
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More dead cops
Even though you probably don’t care some would consider that a problem
Explain why you believe there will be more dead cops.
Posted on 8/20/19 at 12:03 pm to Brosef Stalin
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How is this different than current law? Are they allowed to use deadly force when its unnecessary? That sounds awful. The cops still have plenty of leeway to decide what's necessary.
From the article
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California's old standard made it rare for police officers to be charged following a shooting and rarer still for them to be convicted. It was based on the doctrine of "reasonable fear," meaning if prosecutors or jurors believed officers had a reason to fear for their safety, they could use lethal force.
Posted on 8/20/19 at 12:04 pm to 0
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Explain why you believe there will be more dead cops.
I don't think there will be more dead cops, but there will be more dead citizens.
Posted on 8/20/19 at 12:06 pm to arcalades
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arcalades
Sounds like you need to become a cop to show those frickers how to do it right!
Posted on 8/20/19 at 12:11 pm to 0
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Explain why you believe there will be more dead cops
It's always the low-IQ types that have never seen how quickly an escalation of threat can happen. Hamstringing LEO's by making them second guess an action via the threat of being pubished for it has already cost lives of police officers.
This post was edited on 8/20/19 at 12:19 pm
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