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Gavin Newsom signs law restricting use of rap lyrics as evidence in criminal cases

Is there some kind of back story here? Was this becoming a big problem? Rap lyrics being used as evidence in criminal cases?

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The use of rap lyrics in criminal court cases is now restricted in the state of California. Gov. Gavin Newsom signed The Decriminalizing Artistic Expression Act into law on Friday (Sept. 30). It requires a court in a criminal proceeding “to consider specified factors when balancing the probative value of that evidence against the substantial danger of undue prejudice.”

“Artists of all kinds should be able to create without the fear of unfair and prejudicial prosecution,” said Newsom. He added, “California’s culture and entertainment industry set trends around the world and it’s fitting that our state is taking a nation-leading role to protect creative expression and ensure that artists are not criminalized under biased policies.”

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So if I write a murder novel and somebody gets killed in exactly the same way as in my novel and I'm a suspect, it can't be used.

Am I right?


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Gavin Newsom signs law restricting use of rap lyrics as evidence in criminal cases

I agree with this. Feds use this in Rico cases all the time to show Defendants are part of a continuing criminal enterprise. There's such a thing as artistic license.


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Not sure why that law is needed, but it's an interesting stance to take from the mob of SJWs that think words are violence.


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Rico


Should only have been allowed use for organized crime as it was intended. The gov expanded their power with it. Go figure right?


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novabill
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evidence in criminal cases
So if I write a murder novel and somebody gets killed in exactly the same way as in my novel and I'm a suspect, it can't be used.


Nor should it be.

If that is the only evidence against you then reasonable doubt abounds. Besides, how hard would it be for someone to kill after reading your story?


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So if I write a murder novel and somebody gets killed in exactly the same way as in my novel


There was a Polish author named Krystian Bala who did this years ago. It's one of the main reasons he is in prison now.


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Anything to keep the Black vote!

Sounds like a solution looking for a problem!
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C-murda wants a retrial in Cali


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It requires a court in a criminal proceeding “to consider specified factors when balancing the probative value of that evidence against the substantial danger of undue prejudice.”


Not sure if this was totally necessary under the current rules of evidence as the probative value of potentially relevant evidence must outweigh the substantial danger of undue prejudice anyway, but whatever. Gavin Newsom is a useful idiot in the CA political cesspool.

If Darrel Brooks wrote the following song, should be something the jury weighs as to his intent and motive, no?



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engvol
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Bobby Shmurda wants his justice


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I agree with this. Feds use this in Rico cases all the time to show Defendants are part of a continuing criminal enterprise. There's such a thing as artistic license.


I think it depends. If the only evidence is lyrics, that does seem a little flimsy. If there's other evidence that the lyrics add to, don't see any problem then.


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eiasjsf
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I'm not the biggest fan of Key & Peele, but this reminded me of a clip of theirs I saw a while back: Rap Album Confessions (YT)


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Chicago drill rappers rejoice.


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omegaman66
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I am so confused. Why did they single out rap music?

My brain is grinding.

So this would indicate that rap music is different in some way to warrant a special law for it vs say pop music or bluegrass music.

I can't for the life of me figure out how rap is different i a way that would warrant this legislation.

Does anyone know?


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Your Honor, it was not a hate crime, I was only quoting rap lyrics.


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I am so confused. Why did they single out rap music?


Wasn’t there recently a state or municipality that signed a law to the contrary of this; rap lyrics can be used as evidence against someone?


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Gavin is setting himself up to run for President in 2024 once they dump Pedo Joe. And white women all across the country will line up to vote for him..........


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omegaman66
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Wasn’t there recently a state or municipality that signed a law to the contrary of this; rap lyrics can be used as evidence against someone?


hmmmm I think you might be right!


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