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Gang of Eight, Plus Gowdy and Kelly, Meet With DOJ, FBI and DNI To Debate Transparency
Posted on 5/24/18 at 9:46 am
Posted on 5/24/18 at 9:46 am
---At high-noon House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes (R), and House Oversight Committee Chairman Trey Gowdy (R), are meeting with Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, FBI Director Christopher Wray, Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats and White House Chief of Staff John Kelly. (link) and (link)
In this first meeting the legislative branch will be asking the executive branch, yet again, for unredacted documents relating to their oversight over the Intelligence Community and Department of Justice. The concerns are prior IC, DOJ and FBI conduct in spy operations against the former campaign of current President Donald Trump. ie. “SpyGate”.
The Chief Executive of the Executive Branch, President Donald J Trump, supports full transparency and his interests are represented by Chief-of-Staff John Kelly. However, the representative cabinet officer of the executive branch, Attorney General Jeff Sessions, is not permitted to attend; and the subordinate cabinet officers DAG Rosenstein and FBI Director Wray, seemingly are reluctant to support current transparency requests.
This apparent non-compliant split within the executive branch is unusual to say the least and unfortunately the primary reconciliation officer, Jeff Sessions is recused. Making the issue(s) more complex is current President being the likely victim of an abuse of power by the former cabinet officers of the prior President Obama administration.
To defend the interests of the prior cabinet and prior administration, the co-dependent facilitators of SpyGate, the 2016 Gang-of-Eight (sans Senator Feinstein, replaced by Senator Warner), come from both the Republican and Democrat side of the legislative branch. Thus…
---At 2:00pm, an additional group of legislative branch oversight members, seven additional members of the Intelligence Oversight “Gang of Eight”, will join Devin Nunes for a second meeting/briefing to discuss similar issues.
LINK
In this first meeting the legislative branch will be asking the executive branch, yet again, for unredacted documents relating to their oversight over the Intelligence Community and Department of Justice. The concerns are prior IC, DOJ and FBI conduct in spy operations against the former campaign of current President Donald Trump. ie. “SpyGate”.
The Chief Executive of the Executive Branch, President Donald J Trump, supports full transparency and his interests are represented by Chief-of-Staff John Kelly. However, the representative cabinet officer of the executive branch, Attorney General Jeff Sessions, is not permitted to attend; and the subordinate cabinet officers DAG Rosenstein and FBI Director Wray, seemingly are reluctant to support current transparency requests.
This apparent non-compliant split within the executive branch is unusual to say the least and unfortunately the primary reconciliation officer, Jeff Sessions is recused. Making the issue(s) more complex is current President being the likely victim of an abuse of power by the former cabinet officers of the prior President Obama administration.
To defend the interests of the prior cabinet and prior administration, the co-dependent facilitators of SpyGate, the 2016 Gang-of-Eight (sans Senator Feinstein, replaced by Senator Warner), come from both the Republican and Democrat side of the legislative branch. Thus…
---At 2:00pm, an additional group of legislative branch oversight members, seven additional members of the Intelligence Oversight “Gang of Eight”, will join Devin Nunes for a second meeting/briefing to discuss similar issues.
LINK
This post was edited on 5/24/18 at 9:48 am
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 10:06 am to cajunangelle
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Attorney General Jeff Sessions, is not permitted to attend
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This apparent non-compliant split within the executive branch is unusual to say the least and unfortunately the primary reconciliation officer, Jeff Sessions is recused.
I still don't understand why President Trump hasn't replaced his lame duck Attorney General yet. I sure as hell wouldn't trust Rosenstein to handle this considering his previous ties. Whoever is advising Trump to not replace Sessions needs to be canned. If I was trump, I'd have replaced Sessions the second he recused himself over a big nothing burger.
Posted on 5/24/18 at 10:10 am to Bamatab
To be fair, I don't blame the Justice Department for being reluctant to give over classified material when they know piles of shite like Schiff and Warner are just going to leak whatever they feel like leaking.
On the other hand, the Justice Department itself has also been leaking classified material as it sees fit , so that seems bizarre of them to worry about.
How about we make the penalty for leaking classified material death and start enforcing it.
On the other hand, the Justice Department itself has also been leaking classified material as it sees fit , so that seems bizarre of them to worry about.
How about we make the penalty for leaking classified material death and start enforcing it.
Posted on 5/24/18 at 10:15 am to Bamatab
quote:INB4:starsandstripes
This apparent non-compliant split within the executive branch is unusual to say the least and unfortunately the primary reconciliation officer, Jeff Sessions is recused.
although I agree with him. Why should Sessions be recused from going to this?
Posted on 5/24/18 at 10:18 am to Bamatab
Sessions is the most worthless AG in history. He is recused from pretty much everything somehow and Rosenstein has become the de facto AG.
How does Sessions recusal prevent him from going to a meeting about documentation sharing between the executive branch and legislative branch?
How does Sessions recusal prevent him from going to a meeting about documentation sharing between the executive branch and legislative branch?
Posted on 5/24/18 at 10:18 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Does anyone know why Feinstein was replaced with Warner? Did we miss something? Is it because she got a cold and leaked?
Posted on 5/24/18 at 10:22 am to Bamatab
If Sessions is fires, Rosenstein becomes acting AG until a replacement is approved by the Senate. And you know goddamn well the Dems will drag their feet on that confirmation.
The only way to counter that is to fire Rosenstein before Sessions and let the assistant AG or Solicitor General take over temporarily.
The only way to counter that is to fire Rosenstein before Sessions and let the assistant AG or Solicitor General take over temporarily.
This post was edited on 5/24/18 at 10:23 am
Posted on 5/24/18 at 10:24 am to cajunangelle
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Does anyone know why Feinstein was replaced with Warner? Did we miss something? Is it because she got a cold and leaked?
Isn't the Gang of Eight the four leaders of Congress plus the four leaders of the Intelligence Committees? Feinstein is on Judiciary.
Posted on 5/24/18 at 10:25 am to cajunangelle
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INB4:starsandstripes although I agree with him. Why should Sessions be recused from going to this?
The crazy part is Rosie's paw prints are all over these documents, but so far, he has been mostly out of communications (texts, emails, etc.)
It looks like Rosie has been an unwitting pawn that may look dirty, so he's trying to obfuscate...
I don't like Rosie, but if this is his selfish play, he needs to just expose everything...and beg forgiveness for being duped by Clapper, Brennan and the FBI leadership
This post was edited on 5/24/18 at 10:26 am
Posted on 5/24/18 at 10:27 am to teke184
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If Sessions is fires, Rosenstein becomes acting AG until a replacement is approved by the Senate.
Rosenstein is already the acting AG.
Sessions is recused from just about everything.
Posted on 5/24/18 at 10:30 am to DallasTiger11
Sessions is recused from the Mueller SC-- Russians and the 2016 election. Obama's spying sabotage and sedition is a ballgame all by itself? no?
Posted on 5/24/18 at 10:31 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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To be fair, I don't blame the Justice Department for being reluctant to give over classified material when they know piles of shite like Schiff and Warner are just going to leak whatever they feel like leaking.
If these dudes are on an OVERSIGHT COMIITTEE and have proper clearances, I don't give a sick rat's arse WHY the department is "reluctant". The 'leak' issue is to be handled as it occurs IF it occurs.
But, it is frickery for a Fed Gov department to withhold for 15 minutes, more than needed to actually gather the info, from the oversight body.
frick them all. It is why I despise the Fed Gov behemoth and its gummed up gears.
I believe a duly impaneled oversight body "asks" for documents and there are only a few choices:
1) Do it ASAP...literally ASAP
2) Resign from your job
3) Be FIRED the very day you delay.
This post was edited on 5/24/18 at 10:32 am
Posted on 5/24/18 at 10:31 am to teke184
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If Sessions is fires, Rosenstein becomes acting AG until a replacement is approved by the Senate.
He's acting AG for all intents and purposes right now anyways, how would that change if Sessions is fired?
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And you know goddamn well the Dems will drag their feet on that confirmation.
Can't McConnell fast track it if he really wanted to? The Dems were the ones that nuked the filibustering for Presidential appointees.
Posted on 5/24/18 at 10:32 am to teke184
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If Sessions is fires, Rosenstein becomes acting AG until a replacement is approved by the Senate. And you know goddamn well the Dems will drag their feet on that confirmation.
The only way to counter that is to fire Rosenstein before Sessions and let the assistant AG or Solicitor General take over temporarily.
Or use recess appointment or Federal vacancies reform act. Although both of those have "checks" on them.
For trump to get rid of sessions, he needs a replacement lined up that will sail through the senate. The problem with that is finding a candidate that will constrain the russian investigation and get through the senate prior to the election.
If I was trump and wanted to get rid of sessions, I would wait until congress goes on recess and try to sneak an appointment through.
Posted on 5/24/18 at 10:42 am to cajunangelle
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Sessions is recused from the Mueller SC-- Russians and the 2016 election. Obama's spying sabotage and sedition is a ballgame all by itself? no?
Sessions has recused himself from recusal, furthermore, all future recusals will be recused.
Posted on 5/24/18 at 10:47 am to cajunangelle
The democrats sole goal will be to obfuscate
Posted on 5/24/18 at 10:51 am to cajunangelle
Nunes is the only one i trust out of that group
Posted on 5/24/18 at 10:51 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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To be fair, I don't blame the Justice Department for being reluctant to give over classified material when they know piles of shite like Schiff and Warner are just going to leak whatever they feel like leaking.
On the other hand, the Justice Department itself has also been leaking classified material as it sees fit , so that seems bizarre of them to worry about.
How about we make the penalty for leaking classified material death and start enforcing it.
Still no excuse for them to not hand over the material. If they ever did their job and prosecuted Schiff - and we all know he's been leaking - they wouldn't have to worry. But that would take away their built-in excuse.
Posted on 5/24/18 at 10:53 am to cajunangelle
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spy operations
Which did not exist.
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“SpyGate”
Not a real thing.
Posted on 5/24/18 at 10:54 am to BamaAtl
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spy operations
Which did not exist.
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