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re: Fulton County Elections Strike Again

Posted on 5/24/22 at 1:13 pm to
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 5/24/22 at 1:13 pm to
quote:

You're playing with someone else's money out of loyalty to Trump.


Nice framing of the issue IMO. The brother of that thought, of course, is Trump doesn't give a shite about the every-day conservative GA voter and the issues that matter most to him or her. Instead, it's all about TRUMP.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53435 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 1:17 pm to
quote:

Bro, you are taking a path that leads you directly to the world you are trying to avoid. Never in history has a government resulted in the outcome you desire without the people having the power to elect who they want.



This is correct.



They all tend to forget how the base stopped voting after Daddy Bush. It's How GORE almost won.

They forget that we refused to vote McCain. We refused to Vote Romney.

The result was Trump decided to give a voice. As a result, something Petti seems to hate, Trump increased the Party majorly.

Now he seems to want him gone. The people has already shown that they will no longer compromise to the DEMS Liberal left.
Posted by BaldEagleHey
Member since May 2020
450 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 1:19 pm to
quote:

Call your secretary of state.


Have been working with the SOS office since Friday.

They have been very helpful.

We will see if the Fulton County Board of Elections gets this corrected by next months runoffs.

If not, this will get some press.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53435 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 1:20 pm to
quote:

Nice framing of the issue IMO. The brother of that thought, of course, is Trump doesn't give a shite about the every-day conservative GA voter and the issues that matter most to him or her. Instead, it's all about TRUMP.


You are lying petti jr.


This is about election integrity and his lack of action.


Posted by Pettifogger
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Member since Feb 2012
79104 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 1:23 pm to
quote:

Bro, you are taking a path that leads you directly to the world you are trying to avoid. Never in history has a government resulted in the outcome you desire without the people having the power to elect who they want.



You don't have a solution for me. "Accept what Trump has offered you and hope for the best" is the plan.

quote:

Putting your faith into the GOP to help deliver that ideal is humorously dumb.



I have no faith in the GOP, Trump, etc. What I don't think you understand is that I'm way more fatalistic than you, and I don't think anything you're proposing makes a difference (even if it was guided by genuine concern for election integrity, which I don't).
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56350 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 1:24 pm to
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I didn't say anything of the sort. I'm simply telling you plenty of people hate Brad but are fine with Kemp and the results are likely to show that.



Look man. At the end of the day, you need enough Republicans to vote for Kemp in the general to win. What percentage do you think Perdue is going to get in the primary? What percentage of Perdue votes do you think Kemp is going to get?

When you do that math, is that enough?
Posted by Pettifogger
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Member since Feb 2012
79104 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 1:26 pm to
quote:

When you do that math, is that enough?



If I had to bet, yes. Do I know? No.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56350 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 1:28 pm to
quote:

Well, to be clear Trump is useful even as a stop gap and even as a "screw you" to elites/media who loathe him.

I'd be fine with another Trump term, as flawed as I think he is. But do I think Trump will advance the conversations being had now on the right and which I think are really drawing the cultural war to a head? Not really. I think it'll be memes and trolling and distractions.

But, I caveat all of this with my general negativity, which is that you can't save a country without core values and 350m people pulling in different directions, so it's not like I think DeSantis winning over Trump is going to save America in the long term.



Your vision is way too narrow and way too near focused.

If you don't solve election integrity, you end up with Desantis not winning in 2028 because the powers that be decide he shouldn't. Or, more applicable in general (not to Desantis specifically), you end up with the Desantis candidates having to sell their soul in order to assure their election victory.

Every single freedom and every bit of power we have is in our ability to elect our leaders. We can survive with different people pulling in different directions because all you need to do is convince them to pull in another direction.

But, without elections, that doesn't even matter.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53435 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 1:30 pm to
quote:

Pettifogger


TDS strong. Never saw that coming (sarcasm)

quote:

You don't have a solution for me. "Accept what Trump has offered you and hope for the best" is the plan.


You have options. You are just scared. It';s why you refuse to answer the simple questions posted. You can't wrap your own mind around the logic.


So I will try once again.:

quote:

It goes back to what you nor Petti will answer:


1- Either the office has the power of it does not. Which is it? If it does not, then Stacey or the threat of Stacey is not an issue because the State Legislature will hold her in check.

2- If it does has the power that you fear... Why did Kemp ignore the 2020 election and the runoff?



Neither of you will answer that.


Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79104 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 1:31 pm to


I would argue you're too narrowly focused

It's a country of 350m people half of whom don't like the other half with decreasing middle ground every day. If my neighbors vote to take food off my table or teach my kids to loathe themselves, getting precision and accurate results in elections might be irrelevant.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79104 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 1:35 pm to
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TDS strong. Never saw that coming (sarcasm)



I'm shocked cliche buzzwords represent the extent of your discourse abilities (sarcasm)

You keep repeating questions about a topic where I have no way to discern truth. Without that, I don't know the answers to your questions. What you'd like is that I join you in your pledged allegiance, but I'm not going to do it so you're wasting your own time here.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56350 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 1:38 pm to
quote:

If my neighbors vote to take food off my table or teach my kids to loathe themselves, getting precision and accurate results in elections might be irrelevant.



Holy shite.

I realize that it's scary to consider that people may not vote in your best interests. But, deciding that they shouldn't have the right to vote is crazy.

At least you admitted it.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79104 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 1:42 pm to
quote:

Holy shite.

I realize that it's scary to consider that people may not vote in your best interests. But, deciding that they shouldn't have the right to vote is crazy.

At least you admitted it.



I don't really understand the point of nefariously twisting what I'm saying here, but you do you.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53435 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 1:43 pm to
quote:

I'm shocked cliche buzzwords represent the extent of your discourse abilities (sarcasm)


It's not. Here's discourse:


It goes back to what you nor Petti will answer:


1- Either the office has the power of it does not. Which is it? If it does not, then Stacey or the threat of Stacey is not an issue because the State Legislature will hold her in check.

2- If it does has the power that you fear... Why did Kemp ignore the 2020 election and the runoff?

quote:

You keep repeating questions about a topic where I have no way to discern truth. Without that, I don't know the answers to your questions.


Exactly. Here is Petti saying he has no way to discern truth, yet he has access to the internet because he is using it.

quote:

What you'd like is that I join you in your pledged allegiance, but I'm not going to do it so you're wasting your own time here.


Pledge of Allegiance? Some thing now wrong with the pledge?


Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53435 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 1:44 pm to
quote:

I don't really understand the point of nefariously twisting what I'm saying here, but you do you.


As if you don't.


WOW!
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
59524 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 1:44 pm to
quote:

What you'd like is that I join you in your pledged allegiance, but I'm not going to do it so you're wasting your own time here.

NeverTrumper NeverTrumps.

Film at 11.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79104 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 1:46 pm to
quote:

NeverTrumper NeverTrumps.



We've now redefined NeverTrumpers to include 2x Trump voters

At least we're learning from the Alinsky-ites
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63853 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 1:46 pm to
Why does it have to be Always Trump vs Never Trump?


There's a lot more Always Trump than Never Trump from my observation.


Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79104 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 1:48 pm to
quote:

Exactly. Here is Petti saying he has no way to discern truth, yet he has access to the internet because he is using it.



Ah yes, the internet, where I can find studies and reports by the hundred about the complete absence of election fraud. That's what you meant, right?

Before you get all in a huff, that quip is not an endorsement of said findings.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53435 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 1:48 pm to
quote:

NeverTrumper NeverTrumps.



Was in 2016.... is again.

He still can not separate election integrity and Trump. He demands it be about what HE wants it to be.


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