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re: Fully vaccinated people are 10x less likely to be hospitalized and/or die from the Covid.

Posted on 9/14/21 at 4:07 pm to
Posted by FutureMikeVIII
Houston
Member since Sep 2011
1060 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 4:07 pm to
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Fully vaccinated people are 10x less likely to be hospitalized and/or die from the Covid.


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Was it not 90% a month ago?


Tell me you’re bad at math without telling me you’re bad at math
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33299 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 4:07 pm to
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Idaho has around 300 ICU beds.
They only have staffing for around 200 apparently.
There's also this from just a week or so ago:

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"Spokane hospitals reported their capacity at 87.4%, and COVID patients make up just 7.8% of the patient census. The total ICU occupancy rate is 92.7% in Spokane County, as of Wednesday, according to data from the health district."


There's a narrative somewhere someone is pumping.

Posted by LosTigres251
Plano
Member since Mar 2018
1591 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 4:14 pm to
(to die ooorrrrr be hospitalized). How about die. Whats that number?

Its 26 times less likely for someone with natural antibodies without the vaccine to be hospitalized much less than that to actually die.

So what is your post proving?

Big global governments can make numbers say whatever they need them to say. And anyone one can manipulate the wordings.

If they cant keep you in fear they cant dominate you or take your freedoms away from you.

This is the fact, that no one wants to discuss. Keep being a sheep and playing along scared of a virus that we must all learn to live with and 99.9% do live through.

No way out from this thing eventually reaching you, but being a scared sheep is their plan, shouldnt be ours.

Hell, what can any1 believe anymore? Seems the whole world is fake, not just the USA's media.

Lets think about this.

1. If youre healthy, it may hit you hard and you may have a rough time. Its about a 2% chance of this occurring.

2. If youre healthy and catch it there is a 98% chance not much will come of it at all and now you have natural antibodies.
Youre more likely to get hit by lightning vs die from this virus.

Hum... But Im the dumbass...2+2=3 in 2021.

This post was edited on 9/14/21 at 4:22 pm
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
24649 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 4:15 pm to
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Oh you people are not going to like this, but I enjoy biotch slapping you people with facts. Go ahead and take another syringe full of horse dewormer and tell me how the CDC has cooked the data and how you baws who barely passed high school science class have figured it out.


Now THIS is a fricking quality melt!

I'd tell you to pick your Sonic if your problem with us is so great, but I don't fight girls.

Run along home to your effeminate boyfriend.

ETA:

Oh, and by the way.

I had covid before there were even any confirmed cases in my state. You know, the original variant that was actually more deadly than delta. A vaccine hadn't even been dreamed of yet. Antibody tests confirmed my suspicions.

Well, hate to be the bearer of bad news, but I somehow survived the cataclysmic and deadly symptom of losing my sense of smell for a week.
This post was edited on 9/14/21 at 4:20 pm
Posted by NashvilleTider
Your Mom
Member since Jan 2007
11346 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 4:16 pm to
LOL UPI - amazing these retards and their fake news - Poor Op - when he dies in a few years no one will cry.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
7554 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 4:18 pm to
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Fun Fact: A competing study that focused solely on the month of July showed that Delta reduced vaccine effectiveness
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While results indicated the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines were highly effective against COVID-19 infection (76%, 86%, respectively) and hospitalization (85%, 91.6%) the effectiveness against infection dropped for the month of July to 42%. Breaking data down by states, Florida showed the biggest drop, down to 35% effective.



You got a link to that study? This is definitely where we are headed.
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27854 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 4:31 pm to
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You got a link to that study? This is definitely where we are headed.

LINK

Click on the tab "Full Text" to get more of the July data they pulled out
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However, in July, the effectiveness against infection was considerably lower for mRNA-1273 (76%, 95% CI: 58-87%) with an even more pronounced reduction in effectiveness for BNT162b2 (42%, 95% CI: 13-62%). Notably, the Delta variant prevalence in Minnesota increased from 0.7% in May to over 70% in July whereas the Alpha variant prevalence decreased from 85% to 13% over the same time period.

Any data prior to mid-July regarding Covid is essentially hot garbage. The numbers crashed for the vaccinated after that time period

BTW, this Mayo Clinic study is the one the CDC used to justify approving boosters for the vaccines
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
36703 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 4:41 pm to
OK but if that's a risk I'm willing to take, then it's a risk I'm willing to take.

They need to stop with the "take it to protect others". It doesn't stop transmission so if I take it I'm not protecting others!
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123769 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 4:41 pm to
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They reduce cholesterol that the virus needs to enter lung cells. 50% reduction in hospitalizations if you’re on statins.

Very few doctors are prescribing these. Have to ask why.
Oh for frick sakes!
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123769 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 4:46 pm to
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Now THIS is a fricking quality melt!

I'd tell you to pick your Sonic if your problem with us is so great
If choice of weapons was medical knowledge, you'd be Hamilton ... dead at the duel.
Posted by McChowder
Hammond
Member since Dec 2006
5217 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 5:00 pm to
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Then why are the hospitals full?

Are you denying the hospitalization rate for those under 70 and in good health is low? If not and you are correct that vaxxed are 10X less.......why are the unvaccinated such a threat to the vaccinated?

Answer the question.
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
33966 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 5:02 pm to
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Fully vaccinated people are 10x less likely to be hospitalized

And are 10x more likely to die from abnormalities produced from a not fully tested vaccination
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39372 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 5:24 pm to
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prevents serious issues


But there’s the rub. When the CDC acknowledged that it doesn’t stop the spread of the virus, the vaccine became more of a treatment than prophylactic. lt then ceases to become a public health issue anymore than smoking or obesity is. How do you justify forced treatments for COVID, but not heart disease, cancers, etc... that kill many more Americans? Or maybe you don’t, and mandated medical procedures become the norm for a number of people suffering from a range of health problems. Medical freedom is gone. The state dictates your healthcare. A bureaucrat decides when MeeMaw has been on that ventilator long enough.
This post was edited on 9/14/21 at 5:31 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111495 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 5:54 pm to
Reducing your chance of hospitalization from 0.0008 to 0.00008 isn’t all that compelling.
Posted by DaBike
Member since Jan 2008
8942 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 5:57 pm to
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Oh you people are not going to like this, but I enjoy biotch slapping you people with facts.


And yet you’ll ignore facts or science that you don’t like. Just another lying hypocritical liberal.
This post was edited on 9/15/21 at 7:47 am
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
16701 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 7:42 pm to

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They reduce cholesterol that the virus needs to enter lung cells. 50% reduction in hospitalizations if you’re on statins.

Very few doctors are prescribing these. Have to ask why.


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Oh for frick sakes!


Here’s the research that backs up my claim.

Statins Reduce COVID-19 Severity, Likely by Removing Cholesterol That Virus Uses to Infect


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The researchers found that statin use prior to hospital admission for COVID-19 was associated with a more than 50 percent reduction in risk of developing severe COVID-19, compared to those with COVID-19 but not taking statins. Patients with COVID-19 who were taking statins prior to hospitalization also recovered faster than those not taking the cholesterol-lowering medication.
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