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re: FOX10 AL Sen Poll: Moore Leads Jones 49% to 43%
Posted on 11/17/17 at 11:04 am to SirWinston
Posted on 11/17/17 at 11:04 am to SirWinston
The NRSC poll is fake news. The Fox poll oversampled Democrats, I think.
Nonetheless, the race has obviously changed and Jones has real chance at winning a seat any generic Republican should be walking away with. Moore needs to get out of his shell and at least try to go after people in the middle. Doubling down on his base and hiding behind wacko surrogates isn’t going to help him. I don’t think he’s capable of doing anything else though.
Roy still has the Alabama Rule of Three going for him, which is a traditionally tremendous obstacle for any opponent to overcome.
Nonetheless, the race has obviously changed and Jones has real chance at winning a seat any generic Republican should be walking away with. Moore needs to get out of his shell and at least try to go after people in the middle. Doubling down on his base and hiding behind wacko surrogates isn’t going to help him. I don’t think he’s capable of doing anything else though.
Roy still has the Alabama Rule of Three going for him, which is a traditionally tremendous obstacle for any opponent to overcome.
This post was edited on 11/17/17 at 11:08 am
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Posted on 11/17/17 at 11:06 am to Volkosoby
People aren’t as stupid as they think we are.. common sense why would these accusations come out so soon before a special election forty years later
Posted on 11/17/17 at 11:06 am to SirWinston
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The poll showing Jones leading has a ridiculous party skew that over samples the Dems by a good 15 points (7.5 in each direction).
Are you serious? Do you have a link showing that? It's hard to believe that FoxNews would publish such a poll. But then again, they seem to be eGOP more than conservative.
Posted on 11/17/17 at 11:11 am to Volkosoby
We love our fake polls don't we folks?
Posted on 11/17/17 at 11:14 am to FairhopeTider
Disagree.... Moore needs to lay low for another week and let this blow over more.
He still has plenty of time left and will win by over 4%
He still has plenty of time left and will win by over 4%
This post was edited on 11/17/17 at 11:16 am
Posted on 11/17/17 at 11:15 am to tigersbh
No link but the sample on that poll was R 48% D 42% which is complete bullshite in Alabama.
Posted on 11/17/17 at 11:17 am to tigersbh
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It's hard to believe that FoxNews would publish such a poll
I would entertain the idea that a poll reflecting Jones leading could inspire people get out to vote for Republicans.
Posted on 11/17/17 at 11:18 am to SirWinston
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Moore needs to lay low for another week and let this blow over more.
Yeah, that's not Moore's MO, especially now with Bannon behind him. His campaign had 2 press conferences yesterday, and is currently having another one.
Posted on 11/17/17 at 11:21 am to SirWinston
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poll showing Jones leading has a ridiculous party skew that over samples the Dems by a good 15 points
In Alabama
Posted on 11/17/17 at 11:21 am to 9th life
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I would entertain the idea that a poll reflecting Jones leading could inspire people get out to vote for Republicans.
Could be. I would rather just see an honest poll!
Posted on 11/17/17 at 11:21 am to SirWinston
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No link but the sample on that poll was R 48% D 42% which is complete bullshite in Alabama.
Thanks.
Posted on 11/17/17 at 11:22 am to SirWinston
Next week is Thanksgiving and the Iron Bowl. The week after post-Iron Bowl/pre-SEC Championship. On one hand that’s good because it will take the conversation away from him. On the other hand, it prevents him from convincing moderate/suburban GOP voters to come back in his camp. Remember, Moore traditionally underperforms on General election ballots.
I agree that I will have to see it to believe it when it comes to seeing him lose.
I agree that I will have to see it to believe it when it comes to seeing him lose.
Posted on 11/17/17 at 11:23 am to FairhopeTider
They will vote for him once they get in the voting booth. Trust me. All he needs is one last week of blitz pointing out how liberal Jones is.
All he's got to do is survive until that last week and he's golden.
All he's got to do is survive until that last week and he's golden.
This post was edited on 11/17/17 at 11:24 am
Posted on 11/17/17 at 11:24 am to The Spleen
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Yeah, that's not Moore's MO, especially now with Bannon behind him. His campaign had 2 press conferences yesterday, and is currently having another one.
Well that's still "lying low" in my opinion. I meant "stay local" and don't do anymore Hannity bullshite.
Fight it, but fight it in Alabama, not in NYC or D.C.
This post was edited on 11/17/17 at 11:27 am
Posted on 11/17/17 at 11:26 am to tigersbh
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Could be. I would rather just see an honest poll!
me too. I just dont think that exists today.
i started viewing every poll asking myself what kind of person would answer a phone call from an unknown number and then listen to an automated system or telemarketer asking them questions about for whom they intend to vote.
I dont think that person is representative of the average voter, for either party.
Posted on 11/17/17 at 11:26 am to SirWinston
Gotcha. And he actually is laying low and just letting all his sycophants do the talking for him. You'd think he was running this race against The Washington Post based on the talking points.
Posted on 11/17/17 at 11:27 am to The Spleen
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His campaign had 2 press conferences yesterday, and is currently having another one.
One of the press conferences yesterday was an absolute circus and the shouting fights in the hallway from his nutjob surrogates overshadowed anything that was positive.
The one today just had a woman say “Roy Moore is the closest thing any of us have observed to a Founding Father in our lifetime.” Another woman went into graphic detail of abortions.
These wackos aren’t doing Moore any favors.
This post was edited on 11/17/17 at 11:29 am
Posted on 11/17/17 at 11:30 am to FairhopeTider
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Remember, Moore traditionally underperforms on General election ballots.
I think the Trump win has changed this a little though, but yeah he barely won the last Supreme Court race against a Dem the party threw up there at the last minute. Think it was like 51% to 47%, or something like that.
It being a special election gives it a different dynamic. He can't rely on straight ticket voters a presidential or gubernatorial election brings.
Posted on 11/17/17 at 11:32 am to FairhopeTider
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One of the press conferences yesterday was an absolute circus and the shouting fights in the hallway from his nutjob surrogates overshadowed anything that was positive.
I especially liked the ones complaining about out-of-state influence when they themselves were from out-of-state.
Posted on 11/17/17 at 11:32 am to tarzana
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This is old news. Fox just conducted a poll last night which showed Doug Jones up by 8. I'll try to find a link with the newly published poll.
In-state polling > out-of-state polling
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