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re: Former abortion doctor says: ‘You Never Need Late-Term Abortion To Save A Woman’s Life’
Posted on 2/11/19 at 2:40 pm to NC_Tigah
Posted on 2/11/19 at 2:40 pm to NC_Tigah
You must love vegetative state of people living on electricity. To me that is inhumane and makes me sick that family put loved ones through that. Almost as selfish as suicide.
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Posted on 2/11/19 at 2:40 pm to ShortyRob
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Back to supporting child murder.
That's the Shreve we all know
He'll "not recall" posting this in a few days.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 2:41 pm to AggieHank86
quote:Now you're being contrarian for contrarian sake.
Any legislator who would pass ANY legislation without examining and considering the associated costs SHOULD NOT be sitting in said legislature.
I mean, one could argue that we could save a lot of money if we let women on welfare kill their children too.
Probably a shite ton of $$ to be saved there.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 2:48 pm to The Swindler
quote:Everything that I have read says that this scenario is indeed exceedingly rare.
My wife has delivered babies for 13 years. She has yet to see or even hear about a scenario that forces death to the infant for the mother's survival. ZERO cases
Is that any consolation to the one woman in ... say hypothetically ... a million who actually DOES need the procedure and will die without it?
You are willing to sacrifice the life of a sentient being who WANTS to live, in order to protect the lives of organisms that have not yet achieved sentience. I am not ... ever.
It is really that simple.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 2:50 pm to ShortyRob
Sorry but if you want to be selfish and parade your family members around in a vegetable state for somebody else to take care of that's on you. I choose to deal with it in a more humane way. To each their own I guess
Posted on 2/11/19 at 2:52 pm to AggieHank86
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Is that any consolation to the one woman in ... say hypothetically ... a million who actually DOES need the procedure and will die without it?
Give me one example of a viable fetus needing to be exterminated before it is delivered in order to save the life of the mother where delivering the viable fetus alive would not accomplish the same thing as far as the mother's health.
Is the baby suspected of planning to murder the mother as soon as it is free of the womb?
Posted on 2/11/19 at 2:52 pm to ShreveportHog94
quote:What are you babbling about. I've said nothing of the sort.
Sorry but if you want to be selfish and parade your family members around in a vegetable state
Posted on 2/11/19 at 3:00 pm to ShortyRob
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What are you babbling about. I've said nothing of the sort.
That's his "go to". By not wanting mothers to be able to kill their already born children and by not wanting late term abortions, apparently, in his tiny little brain, that's what we want.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 3:03 pm to L.A.
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I know we have some physicians on this board. So what about it, doctors. Agree? Disagree?
Generally agree but I like to never say never which is why the current abortion laws have exceptions that I include saving the life of the mother.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 3:04 pm to WeeWee
quote:Which most people are good with. Alas, the exceptions go beyond that. Which, we are not.
Generally agree but I like to never say never which is why the current abortion laws have exceptions that I include saving the life of the mother.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 3:10 pm to ShreveportHog94
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Like suggesting infanticide is a position of the left.
We don't have to suggest it because the left declares it openly!
Posted on 2/11/19 at 3:11 pm to ShreveportHog94
quote:No suggesting needed.
Like suggesting infanticide is a position of the left.
We merely have to quote leftists
Posted on 2/11/19 at 3:19 pm to AggieHank86
quote:You have the input of several physicians telling you, repeatedly, that your "one woman in a million" hypothetical is not viable. Not one in a million. Not one in 10 million. Not one.
Is that any consolation to the one woman in ... say hypothetically ... a million who actually DOES need the procedure and will die without it?
Now perhaps if your hypothetical woman is raped by a hypothetical outerspace creature akin to the Xenomorph from "Alien", your hypothetical would have credence.
Shy of that, no.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 3:32 pm to SDVTiger
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Shreveportard will tell us that this is False
Its ok, we have another Arkansas fan that's an actual doctor who'll shut him down reeeeal quick.
It kind of balances itself out.
This post was edited on 2/11/19 at 3:33 pm
Posted on 2/11/19 at 3:34 pm to ShreveportHog94
quote:What if we made all abortion illegal unless the mothers life was in danger?
I stand with Trump. 20 weeks for abortion. Anything after must be to save a mother's life or in cases of non viability. He has laid this out as his position and I'm with him. Hell even I can do with a week or 2 shorter than 20 weeks. Trump loves him some dead babies though.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 3:37 pm to ShreveportHog94
quote:No.
You must love vegetative state of people living on electricity.
I love parental rights.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 3:37 pm to ShreveportHog94
How do you profit from the abortion industry?
Posted on 2/11/19 at 3:43 pm to ShortyRob
quote:Shorty, it is a bit of a goose/gander situation.quote:What are you babbling about. I've said nothing of the sort.
Sorry but if you want to be selfish and parade your family members around in a vegetable state
The reactionary majority on this forum routinely engages in affirmative misrepresentation of the views of the minority ... or at a minimum strips the nuance from positions to such an extent as to be the functional equivalent of an affirmative misrepresentation.
It is hardly reasonable to complain when the minority turns around and does the same.
No, you are not personally guilty of this behavior very often, but you don't step forward and criticize it, either.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 3:43 pm to AggieHank86
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Without arguing in favor or against this proposal ... who pays the hundreds of thousands of dollars necessary to preserve the life of a fetus delivered at this early stage?
The mother does not want the pregnancy, so she should not be responsible. Taxpayers? Adoptive parents?
How about that old conservative pillar known as "personal accountability?"
That's kind of, like, the MAIN value the Right espouses. But you know that since you're such a staunch conservative, right?
Posted on 2/11/19 at 3:48 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:Yes, it is easy-enough to find an anti-abortion, SoCon doctor who asserts that there is NEVER a need for this procedure. It is equally-easy to find an abortion advocate doctor who asserts that there is often a need for such a procedure.
You have the input of several physicians telling you, repeatedly, that your "one woman in a million" hypothetical is not viable. Not one in a million. Not one in 10 million. Not one.
You choose to believe one of them, because his assertion confirms your previously-held position. Pure confirmation bias.
I don't believe either of them, because on this issue (like almost EVERY issue) the truth lies somewhere between the two extremes.
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