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For those who say "this is not an emergency"
Posted on 2/15/19 at 3:23 pm
Posted on 2/15/19 at 3:23 pm
On average, about 2,000 people are caught crossing the border illegally every day. It's estimated that an additional 1,000 people cross the border illegally every day without being caught.
Imagine a full Tiger Stadium, every month, attempting to break into our country illegally, with about one-third of them doing so successfully. And not all of them have good intentions.
If that's not an emergency, how have the other 31 active national emergencies escaped your criticism? For example:
Nov 23, 2015: The National Emergency With Respect to Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Situation in Burundi was declared after a failed coup.
If you didn't protest the national emergency called for on Nov 23, 2015, you really have no leg to stand on today.
Imagine a full Tiger Stadium, every month, attempting to break into our country illegally, with about one-third of them doing so successfully. And not all of them have good intentions.
If that's not an emergency, how have the other 31 active national emergencies escaped your criticism? For example:
Nov 23, 2015: The National Emergency With Respect to Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Situation in Burundi was declared after a failed coup.
If you didn't protest the national emergency called for on Nov 23, 2015, you really have no leg to stand on today.
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Posted on 2/15/19 at 3:27 pm to RidiculousHype
There are miles/sections of border fence (steel slates) all along the border.
When were these built(president in office) and why?
Why wasn't there outrage?
Why did dems give majority of support?
When were these built(president in office) and why?
Why wasn't there outrage?
Why did dems give majority of support?
Posted on 2/15/19 at 3:29 pm to RidiculousHype
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average, about 2,000 people are caught crossing the border illegally every day.1,000 people cross the border illegally every day without being caught.
There is no way this is a true statement.
That's over a million people a year.
Posted on 2/15/19 at 3:30 pm to RidiculousHype
A reduction in only 3-4% of illegals making it across would save the US 5 billion annually
Posted on 2/15/19 at 3:37 pm to RidiculousHype
I say frick it burn it down look at this heaping pile of garbage
Twitter is PROMOTING this how shocking
Twitter is PROMOTING this how shocking
This post was edited on 2/15/19 at 3:38 pm
Posted on 2/15/19 at 3:40 pm to cajunangelle
4 people have downvoted but have failed to articulate a logical reply...I'm ready and willing to listen...
Posted on 2/15/19 at 3:43 pm to RidiculousHype
I'd like examples of other emergencies this power was used for.
Posted on 2/15/19 at 3:56 pm to RidiculousHype
quote:That National Emergency Declaration was similar to numerous made before it.
If you didn't protest the national emergency called for on Nov 23, 2015, you really have no leg to stand on today.
Why would someone have been against that one?
Or did you just pick one out of the hat with no real purpose other than just listing a previous NED?
Posted on 2/15/19 at 3:59 pm to LSUJuice
LINK
That's just a sampling of the 31 that are still active today.
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November 3, 1997: The National Emergency With Respect to Blocking Sudanese Government Property and Prohibiting Transactions with Sudan implemented economic and trade sanctions.
June 26, 2001: The National Emergency With Respect to Blocking Property of Persons Who Threaten International Stabilization Efforts in the Western Balkans imposed sanctions on those aiding Albanian insurgents in Macedonia
June 16, 2006: The National Emergency With Respect to Blocking Property of Certain Persons Undermining Democratic Processes or Institutions in Belarus was in response to charges of fraud in the Belarus presidential election.
July 25, 2011: The National Emergency With Respect to Blocking Property of Transnational Criminals was in response to the rise in crime by specific organizations: Los Zetas (Mexico), The Brothers’ Circle (former Soviet Union countries), the Yakuza (Japan), and the Camorra (Italy).
April 1, 2015: The National Emergency With Respect to Blocking the Property of Certain Persons Engaging in Significant Malicious Cyber-Enabled Activities was in response to Chinese cyber attacks on the U.S.
That's just a sampling of the 31 that are still active today.
Posted on 2/15/19 at 4:00 pm to texridder
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Or did you just pick one out of the hat with no real purpose other than just listing a previous NED?
This.
My point was to show that the threshold for declaring national emergency in the past has been abysmally low. Since that bar is so low, surely 90,000 people attempting to break into the country every month qualifies.
Posted on 2/15/19 at 4:03 pm to RidiculousHype
The down voters only reply is Trump is a meanie.
Posted on 2/15/19 at 4:04 pm to RidiculousHype
This guy didn't think it was an emergency until VERY recently.
February 28, 2018 - "45 year low on illegal border crossings this year. Ice and Border Patrol Agents are doing a great job for our Country. MS-13 thugs being hit hard."
February 28, 2018 - "45 year low on illegal border crossings this year. Ice and Border Patrol Agents are doing a great job for our Country. MS-13 thugs being hit hard."
Posted on 2/15/19 at 4:08 pm to BamaNixon
Any number over 1 is too many. DWI snowflake.
Posted on 2/15/19 at 4:09 pm to BamaNixon
Apprehensions have been declining since 2000.
In 2000, about 3 Tiger Stadiums full of people attempted to break into the country illegally per month.
A national emergency should have been declared a long time ago.
Whether it's 3 Tiger Stadiums or 1 Tiger Stadium, either way that's more of an emergency than many of the currently active 31 national emergencies. Right?
In 2000, about 3 Tiger Stadiums full of people attempted to break into the country illegally per month.
A national emergency should have been declared a long time ago.
Whether it's 3 Tiger Stadiums or 1 Tiger Stadium, either way that's more of an emergency than many of the currently active 31 national emergencies. Right?
Posted on 2/15/19 at 4:11 pm to Nguyener
quote:
There is no way this is a true statement. That's over a million people a year.
That is the point!
Posted on 2/15/19 at 4:15 pm to Fat Bastard
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Any number over 1 is too many. DWI snowflake.
First off, I'm not the snowflake. I only quoted the President. Insult him.
Second, from your quote, I take it that you'd be ok with spending billions of dollars to keep one or two illegal immigrants out of the U.S. I'd say that would be a pretty unpopular opinion.
Posted on 2/15/19 at 4:18 pm to RidiculousHype
quote:
Apprehensions have been declining since 2000.
In 2000, about 3 Tiger Stadiums full of people attempted to break into the country illegally per month.
A national emergency should have been declared a long time ago.
Whether it's 3 Tiger Stadiums or 1 Tiger Stadium, either way that's more of an emergency than many of the currently active 31 national emergencies. Right?
I mean, if it has been such an emergency, why wasn't it dealt with when the GOP had control of the White House and both houses of Congress?
Posted on 2/15/19 at 4:22 pm to BamaNixon
Listen to what the POTUS actually said today. This is not a national emergency. It is a political ploy for him to TRY keep a campaign promise which he cannot since Mexico will not pay for the Wall.
He was also exquisitely clear on what should be a material legal point: that this is not, in fact, a national emergency: “I didn’t need to do this … I just want to get it done faster, that’s all.” This, after months of inaction and years of a Republican-controlled Congress and a 10 a.m. announcement time that became a 10:37 a.m. announcement time that will be followed by 4 p.m.
departure for a golf weekend at Mar-a-Lago.
He was also exquisitely clear on what should be a material legal point: that this is not, in fact, a national emergency: “I didn’t need to do this … I just want to get it done faster, that’s all.” This, after months of inaction and years of a Republican-controlled Congress and a 10 a.m. announcement time that became a 10:37 a.m. announcement time that will be followed by 4 p.m.
departure for a golf weekend at Mar-a-Lago.
This post was edited on 2/15/19 at 4:27 pm
Posted on 2/15/19 at 4:28 pm to RidiculousHype
quote:
Apprehensions have been declining since 2000.
In 2000, about 3 Tiger Stadiums full of people attempted to break into the country illegally per month.
A national emergency should have been declared a long time ago.
Whether it's 3 Tiger Stadiums or 1 Tiger Stadium, either way that's more of an emergency than many of the currently active 31 national emergencies. Right?
Take it up with the guy that said this, "I could do the wall over a longer period of time. I didn’t need to do this [national emergency]. But I would rather do it much faster.”
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