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For all you quarantine fans, every single one of us will be exposed to COVID at some point
Posted on 3/27/20 at 8:20 am
Posted on 3/27/20 at 8:20 am
You are not stopping the spread of COVID, because we are too mobile as a society. You are only destroying your economy so that hospitals dont get too crowded. Simply put, your body will either:
1) Reject it at exposure
2) Be consumed by it, and exit this mortal coil
3) or Develop an immunity to it
All you are doing is prolonging the inevitable. The Spanish flu is the perfect model at this point. It appeared in early 1918, returned in Sept, and then at its most deadliest in Nov. When it first arrived, the elderly were at risk. By November, 20-40 years olds were the target. However, that virus has never returned, even though it is still detected in pigs over 100 years later
The same thing happened with SARS as the Spanish flu. After its initial run, the disease disappeared. No vaccine was ever developed, and no one has died from it in 16 years
You simply cannot shut the country down from Sept to Nov again this year
1) Reject it at exposure
2) Be consumed by it, and exit this mortal coil
3) or Develop an immunity to it
All you are doing is prolonging the inevitable. The Spanish flu is the perfect model at this point. It appeared in early 1918, returned in Sept, and then at its most deadliest in Nov. When it first arrived, the elderly were at risk. By November, 20-40 years olds were the target. However, that virus has never returned, even though it is still detected in pigs over 100 years later
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“COVID-19 will become endemic and will return in the fall”, assures Efe Amesh Adalja, epidemic expert at the Johns Hopkins University Health Security Center
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The novel coronavirus "very well might" become cyclical and the US needs to be prepared, Dr. Anthony Fauci said at the White House on Wednesday.
The same thing happened with SARS as the Spanish flu. After its initial run, the disease disappeared. No vaccine was ever developed, and no one has died from it in 16 years
You simply cannot shut the country down from Sept to Nov again this year
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Posted on 3/27/20 at 8:21 am to RobbBobb
the people who are smart enough to want to slow down the spread of this already know why theyre doing it but thanks for the psa
Posted on 3/27/20 at 8:22 am to Tiguar
I’m confused by all the people who think we’re doing this to eradicate covid19.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 8:22 am to RobbBobb
Shutdowns are not about stopping everyone from becoming infected, its to slow the rate of infection to not overwhelm our healthcare system and to buy more time develop treatments and vaccines.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 8:23 am to 4cubbies
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I’m confused by all the people who think we’re doing this to eradicate covid19.
people who never understood the virus to begin with
Posted on 3/27/20 at 8:23 am to Tiguar
There’s plenty of people who don’t understand this who are making policy decisions for us. I can 100% guarantee you that St. Louis’ mayor doesn’t understand the OP at all.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 8:24 am to RobbBobb
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You simply cannot shut the country down from Sept to Nov again this year
Agreed. And there should be a full court press to come up with different treatment solutions in the interim. Serums, vaccines, viral medication, etc.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 8:24 am to 4cubbies
OP is slow. Leave him to his self-righteous delusions.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 8:24 am to the808bass
probably but in my head I exclude politicians from my original statement. they do shite because they have to "do something" and follow each other like lemmings trying to out-do one another with their "doing something"
Posted on 3/27/20 at 8:24 am to LSU2a
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Shutdowns are not about stopping everyone from becoming infected, its to slow the rate of infection to not overwhelm our healthcare system and to buy more time develop treatments and vaccines.
-5 pts for not posting the gif.
We all know this.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 8:26 am to RobbBobb
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You are not stopping the spread of COVID
I'm not a fan of the quarantine, but we are slowing the spread. This operates like insurance in spreading out the risk.
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every single one of us will be exposed to COVID
That's probably a little too strong, but I would concede most-to-all.
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However, that virus has never returned, even though it is still detected in pigs over 100 years later
Technically, there have been small outbreaks of H1N1, plus the bigger one in 2009. H1N1 is the successor of "The Spanish Flu/1918 influenza pandemic".
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The same thing happened with SARS
I've said all along this is SARS 2.0. It literally is, because this is another expression of corona (which SARS was).
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No vaccine was ever developed
I'm not 100% sure this is true. I don't think any vaccine was deployed in the West.
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You simply cannot shut the country down from Sept to Nov again this year
Certainly. We will be positioned better (again, we can argue about the cost and I will likely agree with you on many points) to respond for Wave 2 - antibody testing will be complete, many folks will be immune, spreading will be easier to contain and, assuming it isn't more severe (almost always less severe, Spanish flu was an anomaly and we can talk about why that might have been), it will barely register except to remind us of what we went through in the Spring.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 8:26 am to Tiguar
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probably but in my head I exclude politicians from my original statement. they do shite because they have to "do something" and follow each other like lemmings trying to out-do one another with their "doing something"
Agreed. But they’re the ones disseminating the ideas to the common people. So I would guess that 40 to 60% of the population, maybe hire, think that we are saving hundreds of thousands of lives through our quarantine this week.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 8:26 am to LSU2a
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overwhelm our healthcare system and to buy more time develop treatments and vaccines.
1) There was never a vaccine developed for SARS. Dont get your hopes up
2) There will be no healthcare system, if there is no underlying economy to support it. See Italy
Posted on 3/27/20 at 8:27 am to RobbBobb
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every single one of us will be exposed to COVID at some point
1. That's not necessarily true
2. It's not about ensuring nobody else gets exposed. It's about stemming the rate of exposure. The purpose of quarentine is to prevent hospitals getting overrun due to a large influx of infections. The spread rate on this thing is quite sever, and I am saying this as one who is not necessarily pro-quarantine. I see all sides of the argument, so I am just doing what the people who are on the front lines are saying is the best thing to do.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 8:29 am to LSU2a
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Shutdowns are not about stopping everyone from becoming infected, its to slow the rate of infection to not overwhelm our healthcare system and to buy more time develop treatments and vaccines.
Vaccines are years away, treatments are on going process. You don't shut the world down for a flu+, eventually the vast majority of the population will get this... I believe the majority of the population in many countries already do (although not proven yet).
These policies make no sense for a species that relies heavily on commerce for survival.
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That's not necessarily true
The probability is the vast majority of people will get this, and there is actually are good chance... in many countries they already have had it.
This post was edited on 3/27/20 at 8:31 am
Posted on 3/27/20 at 8:29 am to RobbBobb
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1) There was never a vaccine developed for SARS. Dont get your hopes up
A vaccine was developed last week. It just hasn't been tested yet. And testing, production and distribution takes time.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 8:29 am to Midget Death Squad
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It's about stemming the rate of exposure. The purpose of quarentine is to prevent hospitals getting overrun due to a large influx of infections.
How long is recommended? If that’s reasonable, what’s the best alternate course?
Posted on 3/27/20 at 8:30 am to LSU2a
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Shutdowns are not about stopping everyone from becoming infected, its to slow the rate of infection to not overwhelm our healthcare system and to buy more time develop treatments and vaccines.
Bingo!
Posted on 3/27/20 at 8:32 am to financetiger
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Bingo!
Yet, this is nothing different than what happens during a heavy flu season. You don't shut the world down for the flu.
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Hospitals Overwhelmed by Flu Patients Are Treating Them in Tents
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This post was edited on 3/27/20 at 8:34 am
Posted on 3/27/20 at 8:34 am to RobbBobb
I’m old and recovering from heart surgery. I think I’ll corn teen for a while. If I were young and healthy I would want to go to work or go to the beach.
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