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Flu vs Covid issues
Posted on 7/1/20 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 7/1/20 at 2:11 pm
Can someone who is much smarter than me help me out with some numbers.
CDC LINK says:
Estimates of Influenza Vaccination Coverage among Adults—United States, 2017–18 Flu Season
Summary
Flu vaccination coverage among adults was 37.1%
Then they say this: "The 2017–18 flu season was a high severity season with high levels of outpatient clinic and emergency department visits for flu-like illness, high flu-related hospitalization rates, and elevated and geographically widespread flu activity across the United States for an extended period."
So, if I am reading this correctly, almost 40% of the entire US population got vaccinated and they still had some bad numbers. A little research shows:
During the 2017-2018 season, the percentage of deaths attributed to pneumonia and influenza (P&I) was at or above the epidemic threshold for 16 consecutive weeks
From wikipedia: On 10 February 2018, Fortune reported that influenza in the United States was killing up to 4,000 Americans a week. In the first week of February, deaths from influenza and pneumonia were responsible for one of every ten deaths in the US, with 4,064 from pneumonia or influenza recorded in the third week of 2018.
The 2017–2018 flu season was severe for all US populations and resulted in an estimated 959,000 hospitalizations and 61,099 deaths.
All of that WITH A VACCINE. While the covid numbers appear to be higher, without a vaccine, what is the best course now?
- let it runs its course?
- develop vaccine for those not already infected? Seems rather pointless now...
CDC LINK says:
Estimates of Influenza Vaccination Coverage among Adults—United States, 2017–18 Flu Season
Summary
Flu vaccination coverage among adults was 37.1%
Then they say this: "The 2017–18 flu season was a high severity season with high levels of outpatient clinic and emergency department visits for flu-like illness, high flu-related hospitalization rates, and elevated and geographically widespread flu activity across the United States for an extended period."
So, if I am reading this correctly, almost 40% of the entire US population got vaccinated and they still had some bad numbers. A little research shows:
During the 2017-2018 season, the percentage of deaths attributed to pneumonia and influenza (P&I) was at or above the epidemic threshold for 16 consecutive weeks
From wikipedia: On 10 February 2018, Fortune reported that influenza in the United States was killing up to 4,000 Americans a week. In the first week of February, deaths from influenza and pneumonia were responsible for one of every ten deaths in the US, with 4,064 from pneumonia or influenza recorded in the third week of 2018.
The 2017–2018 flu season was severe for all US populations and resulted in an estimated 959,000 hospitalizations and 61,099 deaths.
All of that WITH A VACCINE. While the covid numbers appear to be higher, without a vaccine, what is the best course now?
- let it runs its course?
- develop vaccine for those not already infected? Seems rather pointless now...
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Posted on 7/1/20 at 2:48 pm to dafif
quote:
Can someone who is much smarter than me help me out with some numbers
This entire thing stinks of a hoax. Their data sets keep changing. They're even altering the data from LAST YEAR.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/weeklyarchives2018-2019/data/whoAllregt_cl17.html
Just change the week number in the link above. cl17 cl18 cl19 etc.
Posted on 7/1/20 at 3:02 pm to dafif
it takes about 15 minutes of research to find multiple studies debunking any efficacy claims for the flu shot.
it doesn't work and because of how influenza replicates and mutates, you can't even make an effective vaccine for it.
it doesn't work and because of how influenza replicates and mutates, you can't even make an effective vaccine for it.
Posted on 7/1/20 at 3:03 pm to stFrancisville
I'm also wondering how many people died from the flu that was marked covid.
The data points are all over the board and the cdc sucks donkey arse
The data points are all over the board and the cdc sucks donkey arse
Posted on 7/1/20 at 3:13 pm to dafif
quote:
Flu vs Covid issues
Same thing
Posted on 7/1/20 at 3:54 pm to dafif
I have wondered why such a late year into the vaccination program has the highest number of fatalities. Made me wonder if the vaccine modulated one’s immune response.
Posted on 7/1/20 at 4:03 pm to dafif
This proves that people did die before the COVID pandemic. thanks for sharing
Posted on 7/1/20 at 6:26 pm to tankyank13
I think I have a stalker, getting a downvote for posting stats. Oh well.
I just cannot wrap my head around the entire shutdown and, further, using "emergency" powers to force people to wear masks.
There are other issues but I do not see the stats above bearing that out. Further, assuming this is the only strain, why develop a vaccine as it appears to be running through the world at this time.
I just cannot wrap my head around the entire shutdown and, further, using "emergency" powers to force people to wear masks.
There are other issues but I do not see the stats above bearing that out. Further, assuming this is the only strain, why develop a vaccine as it appears to be running through the world at this time.
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