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ShortyRob
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re: Finnish Government Collapses Due to Rising Cost of Universal Health Care
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There is zero evidence single payer systems are good at controlling cost growth

Why would they?

The customer literally gets to demand whatever supply they can get and fund it at the point of a gun!

This aint a recipe for controlling costs.


mule74
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re: Finnish Government Collapses Due to Rising Cost of Universal Health Care
Bloomberg


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Many of the government’s policies have been highly divisive: budget cuts, a labor pact to boost competitiveness that made people work more for less, penalizing the jobless people who fail to show they are actively seeking to improve their situation, and opening up taxis to increased competition. Resistance to its failed reform on health and social care was widespread, also within the governing parties


How dare they!
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MusclesofBrussels
Member since Dec 2015
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re: Finnish Government Collapses Due to Rising Cost of Universal Health Care
We have more potential revenue streams to support universal healthcare. More large, successful companies and more wealthy elites offer great potential tax revenues. Soak the rich


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TheHarahanian
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re: Finnish Government Collapses Due to Rising Cost of Universal Health Care

How can this be? They were using the utopian formula, right?


doubleb
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re: Finnish Government Collapses Due to Rising Cost of Universal Health Care
Why don't they just print some more money to pay for it all?


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TigerFanatic99
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re: Finnish Government Collapses Due to Rising Cost of Universal Health Care
Wait, Finland's a real country?


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Taxing Authority
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re: Finnish Government Collapses Due to Rising Cost of Universal Health Care
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This aint a recipe for controlling costs.
Yabbut... next time it's gonna work! AOC will tell us all how to get it done right!


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SOKAL
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re: Finnish Government Collapses Due to Rising Cost of Universal Health Care
Yep, let's run the experiment again.


Everything is possible with AOC!!


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MizzouBS
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re: Finnish Government Collapses Due to Rising Cost of Universal Health Care
I don’t know if the Free Beacon is talking about the government or just the majority party. Many of the Finns Party have resigned.

HELSINKI (Reuters) - Finland’s government averted collapse on Tuesday when the nationalist Finns Party split into two groups, leaving newly-elected hardline anti-immigrant leaders in the cold.

Twenty parliamentarians, including former Finns Party leader Timo Soini and all other current Finns ministers, formed a new group called New Alternative.
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seawolf06
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re: Finnish Government Collapses Due to Rising Cost of Universal Health Care
"Since elections were already set for 14 April, the resignation of the government is not a big deal at all at this point. Still, it does create some ugly headlines," Nordea's chief analyst wrote on Twitter.

Basically, central-right government leaders tried to balance the budget and reform healthcare but they failed to get a majority to agree, so they are leaving office early. Not quite a government collapse.


Revelator
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re: Finnish Government Collapses Due to Rising Cost of Universal Health Care
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If Finland can’t work it out with a bunch of skinny white people, how is that gonna work over here?



You are right. I'm pretty sure most of their citizens are of Nordic ancestry.


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Revelator
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re: Finnish Government Collapses Due to Rising Cost of Universal Health Care
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How can this be? They were using the utopian formula, right?



Who knew that free actually cost something.
Milton Friedman was quoted as saying," you think your healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!"


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Revelator
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re: Finnish Government Collapses Due to Rising Cost of Universal Health Care
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Basically, central-right government leaders tried to balance the budget and reform healthcare but they failed to get a majority to agree, so they are leaving office early. Not quite a government collapse.



No, but the path which its currently on is unsustainable and the citizens don't want to hear about it.


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Wtodd
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re: Finnish Government Collapses Due to Rising Cost of Universal Health Care
Ben forgot Hillary's shoe


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MizzouBS
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re: Finnish Government Collapses Due to Rising Cost of Universal Health Care
In many of the Nordic Countries migrants are used for shortages in the workforce, help businesses keep cost low, and support the government with few benefits(taxes).

The Finns party was against migrants/immigrants working in Finland.

Finland has a population of around 5.5 million, so any employment change hurts the entire government. As the workforce gets older migrants are needed even more.

The Finns party was making it harder for migrants to work.
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CelticDog
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re: Finnish Government Collapses Due to Rising Cost of Universal Health Care
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 by all means, let's try it here!!

You seem to have failed reading comprehension.

They want to reduce administrative costs by an order of 10 or 20. That's the entirety of the fuss.

290 admin offices or 18 super regions.



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MeatCleaverWeaver
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re: Finnish Government Collapses Due to Rising Cost of Universal Health Care
American socialists are gonna do it right, though. Don’t you know?


CelticDog
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re: Finnish Government Collapses Due to Rising Cost of Universal Health Care
The article does not mention cost of healthcare or lines or quality of care.

Just admin costs.
295 admin centers in country with one major metro area and 2 languages. South Finn. North, Sami.
South runs it.

Bet those Sami don't want to lose those cherry clerk jobs in Lapland. Beats herding reindeer.



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Brosef Stalin
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re: Finnish Government Collapses Due to Rising Cost of Universal Health Care
Ok I'll make the obvious joke.


I guess you could say they're Finnished.


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