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FBI spin-off/pile on - NY Times: FBI is 'manufacturing terrorism cases'

Posted on 2/16/18 at 4:10 pm
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
In a sea of cognitive dissonance
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Posted on 2/16/18 at 4:10 pm
Somewhat oldie, but has aged well...

NY Times

quote:

The FBI is 'manufacturing terrorism cases' on a greater scale than ever before
Caroline Simon

Jun. 9, 2016, 6:48 PM 17,952


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The FBI has ramped up its use of sting operations in terrorism cases, dispatching undercover agents to pose as jihadists and ensnare Americans suspected of backing ISIS, aka the Islamic State, Daesh, or ISIL. On Thursday, roughly 67% of prosecutions involving suspected ISIS supporters include evidence from undercover operations, according to The New York Times.


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They're manufacturing terrorism cases," Michael German, a former undercover agent with the FBI who now researches national-security law at New York University's Brennan Center for Justice, told The Times. "These people are five steps away from being a danger to the United States."


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Downs also said that the FBI often targets particularly vulnerable people, such as those with mental disabilities. "Very often, they [the FBI] target people who are genuinely psychotic, who are taking medication," he said.




You tube

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Julian Assange: Its part of the FBI "business model"

The Outer Light 5,742 views




Oct 5
Julian Assange ?? @JulianAssange
Replying to @RedactedTonight

Almost all "terror" plots are created by the FBI as part of its business model.

What is the business of the FBI? Extracting tax. What does it need to do that? A stable threat. Prob? Real terrorists are sporadic & make FBI look weak. Solution? Make them.

https://uk.businessinsider.com/fbi-is-manufacturing-terrorism-cases-2016-6?r=US&IR=T … pic.twitter.com/qMrkbFKMJe


Julian Assange ?? @JulianAssange
The FBI is giving guns to the mentally ill to attack people then leaping in to save the day, cameras rolling. What a bunch of jerks.

6:44 AM - Oct 5, 2017
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—?

Business insider link per Assange
This post was edited on 2/16/18 at 4:11 pm
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
In a sea of cognitive dissonance
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 2/16/18 at 4:15 pm to
The one that got away...

CBS



quote:

Family: FBI knew Oklahoma bomb plot suspect is schizophrenic
32 CRIMESIDER STAFF CBS/AP Aug 17, 2017 1:40 PM EDT


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OKLAHOMA CITY -- The family of a man accused of attempting to detonate what he believed was an explosives-laden van outside an Oklahoma bank says he is a paranoid schizophrenic and that the FBI knew it.

Clifford and Melonie Varnell, of Sayre, Oklahoma, issued a statement late Tuesday that questions the tactics undercover FBI agents used to arrest 23-year-old Jerry Drake Varnell. He was taken into custody early Saturday for the alleged plot to detonate a vehicle bomb in an alley adjacent to BancFirst in downtown Oklahoma City.


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"The FBI came and picked him up from our home, they gave him a vehicle, gave him a fake bomb, and every means to make this happen," the statement said, adding that authorities "should not have aided and abetted a paranoid schizophrenic to commit this act." FBI spokeswoman Jessica Rice in Oklahoma City and Assistant U.S. Attorney Scott Williams declined comment Wednesday.


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The complaint says Varnell initially wanted to blow up the Federal Reserve Building in Washington, D.C., with a device similar to the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing, because he was upset with the government.









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Downs also said that the FBI often targets particularly vulnerable people, such as those with mental disabilities. "Very often, they [the FBI] target people who are genuinely psychotic, who are taking medication," he said.



This post was edited on 2/16/18 at 4:20 pm
Posted by JuiceTerry
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Posted on 2/16/18 at 4:26 pm to
Brandon Darby
Posted by cokebottleag
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 2/16/18 at 4:29 pm to
Granted, the US laws allowing essentially entrapment have been used by the FBI to completely destroy organizations that would otherwise have been real cancers (legally speaking) such as the KKK.
Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
26584 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 4:58 pm to
quote:

real cancers


True, and...

MLK, Marilyn Monroe, Charlie Chaplain, the Beatles, Black Panthers, Japanese American internment, and a history of selective justice...

Now, all that's in the past, but thumping whistleblower skulls the past few years is awful. You'd hope they'd be better, but the organization sucks...
It is what it is...
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146498 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 6:59 pm to
I remember the FBI got busted when someone said that the FBI provided explosives for someone back in the Dubya era. So I know they have sting operations so what is to stop them from ordering their insider guys to do about anything?
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 2/17/18 at 7:32 am to


orlando sentinel

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FSU shooter Myron May feared 'energy weapon,' heard voices, thought police were watching him


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Hours before Myron May strode into a Florida State University library with murder on his mind, he left a series of chilling voicemails saying he was being attacked by an "energy weapon" and had a scheme to expose it "once and for all."




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Two months ago, the promising young prosecutor went to police and told them that people were watching him through cameras planted in his apartment and talking about him through the walls.


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At the time May began showing signs of mental instability, he was an associate trial attorney in the felony division of the Third Judicial District Attorney's Office in Las Cruces, N.M. He'd previously worked in the area as a public defender.


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May was also a member of a Facebook group called "Targeted Individuals International." Targeted Individuals are people — often seen as conspiratorial or delusional — who contend they are targets of spying, harassment or abuse, sometimes by electromagnetic radiation weaponry.


One could dismiss this off hand, but let me remind you of what happended in Cuba recently...

the guardian

quote:

Mystery of sonic weapon attacks at US embassy in Cuba deepens

At least some of the incidents were confined to certain rooms with laser-like specificity, and some victims now have problems recalling specific words


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May's Facebook page shows that he recently shared a link to a video interview from the television show "Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura" that featured an interview with Dr. Robert Duncan, "who put together the technology that allows the government to transmit thoughts and voices into the heads of Americans."


The article above describes many of the events in detail, but leaves out the following...



NBC article that mentions/verifies the tweet...

A poster on the fringe linked the following article (from a fringe site). They are stating that Project Soulcatcher is an offshoot of MK-ULTRA

fringe site, but content referenced in article above

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Robert Duncan is a scientist with multiple degrees from Dartmouth College and Harvard University in Applied Sciences (e.g., artificial intelligence, pattern recognition and robotics) and Business.
He has worked on projects for the CIA, Department of Defense, and Department of Justice. In 2004 he testified before the Senate Intelligence Committee, Judiciary Committee, and 23 members of Congress regarding non-consensual experimentation on American citizens.
In 2010 he authored, in partnership with an anonymous consortium of scientists calling themselves the “Mind Hacking Strategy Group,” a book entitled Project: Soul Catcher, Secrets of Cyber and Cybernetic Warfare Revealed.


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In the interview posted below we discuss, among other topics, remote “mind reading,” CIA hive mind experimentation (multiple people sharing the same mental “space”), how people can be targeted and tracked remotely via their energy signature or “brain print,” the existence and use of a technology for remotely “cloning” or “copying” thoughts, emotions and other states (including intense pain) onto a target, [2] and how a weapons system capable of totalitarian control has been developed (with non-consensual and often-times brutal experimentation on civilians ongoing).
Duncan also reveals that many people are now in wireless mental contact with artificial intelligence run on supercomputers.
It is worth noting that current research projects, according to Duncan, have targeted people from all walks of life, not merely (or mainly) the “downtrodden,” as was done in the past.
Some of these targets are threatened with harm to themselves or family members if they do not carry out the instructions of their “handler,” or are promised release from their tortures if they perform some action. [3]

For example, Myron May, the Florida State University shooter, a former assistant district attorney, posted on Facebook before the shooting:

Duncan, who has interviewed many targets, has said that he immediately recognized the “torture script” used on May after listening to a recording in which May discusses his ordeal.


Perhaps most frightening is Duncan’s contention that the scalability of this technology is being tested: “…[A] lot of people won’t believe me and that’s fine. But they’re increasing this. They are scaling this technology to the entire population.”


Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 2/17/18 at 3:49 pm to
Most recent FL shootings (from Q thread discussion)...

quote:

MARJORY STONEMAN DOUGLAS. THE #PARKLAND FLORIDA HIGH
SCHOOL WAS NAMED AFTER HER. SHE WAS NOTORIOUS FOR HER EFFORTS AGAINST 'DRAINING THE SWAMP' OF THE EVERGLADES. LINK Cant make this stuff up folks ..... This was a message to Trump! Also , PARKLAND was the name of hospital JFK was taken to after he was shoot - all a coincidence yea .



Per Wiki

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Marjory Stoneman Douglas (April 7, 1890 – May 14, 1998) was an American journalist, writer, feminist, and environmentalist known for her staunch defense of the Everglades against efforts to drain it and reclaim land for development. Moving to Miami as a young woman to work for The Miami Herald, she became a freelance writer, producing over a hundred short stories that were published in popular magazines. Her most influential work was the book The Everglades: River of Grass (1947), which redefined the popular conception of the Everglades as a treasured river instead of a worthless swamp. Its impact has been compared to that of Rachel Carson's influential book Silent Spring (1962). Her books, stories, and journalism career brought her influence in Miami, enabling her to advance her causes.


Message to Trump

Shooting at anti-swamp draining high school

in a city that shares the same name (Parkland) as the hosptial JFK was brought to after he was assassinated

Deep stuff...
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
In a sea of cognitive dissonance
Member since Mar 2013
11089 posts
Posted on 10/23/20 at 8:04 pm to
https://gizmodo.com/feds-say-19-year-old-with-a-van-full-of-rifles-plotted-1845468092

quote:

Feds Say 19-Year-Old With a Van Full of Rifles Plotted to Kill Joe Biden, Posted About It on iFunny
tommckay Tom McKay Today 6:11PM • Filed to:
2020 ELECTION


At least their algorithms are being honest...

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Among the reasons a federal judge ruled that 19-year-old Alexander Hillel Treisman should remain in custody while he awaits trial on child pornography charges: He conveyed his intent to assassinate Democratic presidential nominee and former Vice President Joe Biden in a meme he posted online, according to prosecutors.


Memes...

I am sure they will link him to Qanon...

quote:

Through the windows, KPD officers observed an AR-15 style rifle, a box for a Taurus .380 handgun, a cannister of the explosive material Tannerite, and a box of 5.56 caliber ammunition. The bank manager requested that KPD tow the van. An inventory search was conducted on the vehicle. The search revealed, in addition to the items seen through the windows, approximately $509,000 of U.S. currency (believed to be Defendant’s inheritance), books (about survival, bomb making, improvised weapons and Islam), drawings of swastikas and planes crashing into buildings, and the following firearms: a Sig Sauer AR rifle, an Intratec 9mm Luger, a Lower AR receiver, a Kel-Tec Sub-2000, a .22 caliber rifle marked ArchAngel, and a Russian Mosin Nagant M91/30 bolt action rifle.


Sure...
Likely taxpayer money given to him by others...

quote:

There is no indication as of this time whether or not Treisman will face additional charges, according to the Post. Treisman’s lawyer has stated he has a diagnosis of Asperger’s syndrome.


Autistic...


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This is at least the third reported arrest of someone who allegedly made threats to kill Biden or his supporters. In April 2020, the New York Police Department arrested a QAnon conspiracy theorist who had driven to New York with numerous knives and drew Secret Service attention for threats against Biden on Facebook. A Maryland man was arrested this month for allegedly leaving a note on a neighbor’s doorstep threatening to kill Biden, his vice presidential nominee, Senator Kamala Harris, and anyone who voted for them. Prosecutors said the man in that case was captured leaving the note on doorbell camera footage.


QAnon...

Convenient timing/optics...
Deflect/project/distract...
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