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re: F.B.I. "Panty Sniffers" sent to Trump residence as part of Raid
Posted on 8/10/22 at 1:14 pm to BBONDS25
Posted on 8/10/22 at 1:14 pm to BBONDS25
quote:Barry, what is the reason for sealing the affidavit, normally?
you are aware the probable cause affidavit was sealed. Oh you weren’t aware of that? Color me shocked you were ignorant to that fact.
Most warrants I have seen have the affidavit attached. I would presume that excluding it is unusual.
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Posted on 8/10/22 at 1:14 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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I'm not guessing at anything, I'm pointing out that he could release the warrant if it would reflect positively on himself.
Imagine being such a radical that you are further left than CNN in house legal experts and Andrew Cuomo.
Posted on 8/10/22 at 1:15 pm to AggieHank86
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Barry, what is the reason for sealing the affidavit, normally? Most warrants I have seen have the affidavit attached. I would presume that excluding it is unusual.
No clue. It is unusual. That’s a question for the judge who signed it. Instead these radicals decide to blame trump and use it as some sort of evidence of wrongdoing. This whole thing is so shady.
This post was edited on 8/10/22 at 1:16 pm
Posted on 8/10/22 at 1:16 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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I'm just pointing out that he's is indeed hiding something - namely the text of the warrant.
"We will stop torturing you if you will just confess..."
--Vladimir Hitler, March 38th, 1942....
Posted on 8/10/22 at 1:18 pm to AggieHank86
Another highly unusual action is the FBI barred Trump’s attorney from being in the building when they conducted the raid. Everyone is demanding transparency from trump but the fbi obtained a warrant with all the supporting info sealed, then searched the house and barred counsel from being present. Yet idiots on here think trump is the one Trying to hide something.
Posted on 8/10/22 at 1:20 pm to BBONDS25
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You are just parroting the BS you hear on CNN.
I don't hear anything on CNN, I don't have cable.
Aren't warrants typically subject to public records requests?
Posted on 8/10/22 at 1:21 pm to BBONDS25
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Everyone is demanding transparency from trump
There isn't a Democrat Politician in History that could withstand the scrutiny Trump has faced.
Posted on 8/10/22 at 1:23 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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Aren't warrants typically subject to public records requests?
Sure. The basis for the warrant is generally attached to the warrant as well. The warrant itself is simply the order signed by a judge granting permission to conduct a search. The basis for that search and the explanation of what is being looked for and the alleged probable cause are in an affidavit that is usually attached to the warrant. That was sealed by the judge and not attached.
Literally the only thing trump has a copy of is the order. They didn’t let him know what the affidavit said. They also prohibited his attorneys from witnessing the search. Trumps team has no idea what was being searched for. Both extremely rare things to have happen
Yet here you are saying trump isn’t being transparent and is guilty of “something”.
Posted on 8/10/22 at 1:24 pm to BBONDS25
quote:That struck me as odd, too, and I mentioned it elsewhere. I don’t see how LEO can bar anyone from presence on property not owned by the agency, unless the warrant specifically allows exclusion.
Another highly unusual action is the FBI barred Trump’s attorney from being in the building when they conducted the raid.
Posted on 8/10/22 at 1:24 pm to BBONDS25
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While presuming trumps guilt, right?
Link?
Guilty of what?
Why are you projecting?
Posted on 8/10/22 at 1:25 pm to BBONDS25
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further left than CNN in house legal experts and Andrew Cuomo.
And you accuse me of watching CNN?
Posted on 8/10/22 at 1:27 pm to BBONDS25
quote:Is that a California thing? The warrants I have seen DO include the boldface on the warrant itself, with the affidavit as an attachment.
The warrant itself is simply the order signed by a judge granting permission to conduct a search. The basis for that search and the explanation of what is being looked for and the alleged probable cause are in an affidavit that is usually attached to the warrant.
Posted on 8/10/22 at 1:28 pm to AggieHank86
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That struck me as odd, too, and I mentioned it elsewhere. I don’t see how LEO can bar anyone from presence on property not owned by the agency, unless the warrant specifically allows exclusion.
Agreed. Trump’s attorneys stated there were 3 DOJ attorneys who originally refused to even show them the warrant. Then after a few hours let them read it, but still maintained they didn’t have to leave a copy. They must have left one eventually, but the DOJ acted very unusually. And sealing the affidavit is very strange.
Posted on 8/10/22 at 1:30 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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While presuming trumps guilt, right?
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Link?
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He's hiding the warrant that spells out why they searched his residence. The reason he's not releasing the text is because it does nothing to help his cause. It sure makes me wonder what it could say that Trump doesn't want the public to see.
That isn’t you presuming his guilt, right? Don’t be obtuse. Everyone knows what you were saying.
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Guilty of what?
You have no clue. But you really really hope it’s something.
Posted on 8/10/22 at 1:31 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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And you accuse me of watching CNN?
I’m accusing of being more radical than even the hard core lefties at CNN and Andrew Cuomo.
Posted on 8/10/22 at 1:32 pm to AggieHank86
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Is that a California thing? The warrants I have seen DO include the boldface on the warrant itself, with the affidavit as an attachment.
That could be as simple as “documents”. The affidavit gives the explanation.
Posted on 8/10/22 at 1:34 pm to BBONDS25
If I had been Trump’s attorney, I think I would have declined to leave the building, unless I was provided a signed Order excluding me. Arrested? Possibly, but the judge would have laughed as he ordered my release in a few hours, and I would be a celebrity.
Posted on 8/10/22 at 1:35 pm to BBONDS25
quote:Protecting the ID of an insider informant maybe?
sealing the affidavit is very strange.
Posted on 8/10/22 at 1:36 pm to AggieHank86
My guess, and this is pure speculation, is that this raid was based upon a very weak affidavit that was referencing the documents the national archive requested and had been in talks with trumps team for months about. It was used as a way to get in and go on a fishing expedition. If that’s the case it is a disgusting weaponization of the DOJ against a political opponent.
Their only hope, in my opinion, is they “found” something damning. However, given their track record with trump they would have to authenticate the F out of anything they “find”.
Their only hope, in my opinion, is they “found” something damning. However, given their track record with trump they would have to authenticate the F out of anything they “find”.
Posted on 8/10/22 at 1:37 pm to BBONDS25
quote:Not consistent with what I have seen, but I am sure there are lots of regional variations.
That could be as simple as “documents”
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