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re: FBI arrests leader of border patriots
Posted on 4/21/19 at 3:02 pm to Homesick Tiger
Posted on 4/21/19 at 3:02 pm to Homesick Tiger
Exactly,be clear of what needs to be addressed and address it.It can't be that damn hard.
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Posted on 4/21/19 at 3:04 pm to Clark14
Well I think he's doing all he can legally with the fence at this time. A lot of it has to be replaced because it ain't working.
Posted on 4/21/19 at 3:27 pm to Homesick Tiger
Yes,much outdated fencing has been getting replaced,and has been happening for awhile.
But why not take appropriated money and extend new fencing in areas where it is needed.
Too much money is being spent on areas where a fence isn't needed through surveying,engineering and law suits over having to buy out folks from their land that their families have owned for many years.This is just pissing money away.
Address the trouble spots now and if other areas become a problem address them then.
No sense in screwing Americans out of their homes and land if the fence will never be built there anyway.
These comments aren't addressed toward trump,I've seen this happen with other situations,highway jobs that will never happen,and people have no choice but to lose because someone had a dream that won't happen.
But why not take appropriated money and extend new fencing in areas where it is needed.
Too much money is being spent on areas where a fence isn't needed through surveying,engineering and law suits over having to buy out folks from their land that their families have owned for many years.This is just pissing money away.
Address the trouble spots now and if other areas become a problem address them then.
No sense in screwing Americans out of their homes and land if the fence will never be built there anyway.
These comments aren't addressed toward trump,I've seen this happen with other situations,highway jobs that will never happen,and people have no choice but to lose because someone had a dream that won't happen.
This post was edited on 4/21/19 at 3:28 pm
Posted on 4/21/19 at 3:31 pm to BamaAtl
quote:
racist
I don’t think that word means what you think it means.
Posted on 4/21/19 at 3:52 pm to SDVTiger
You need to calm down,boy.
Posted on 4/21/19 at 3:53 pm to cokebottleag
quote:The "other whites" were racist. Pretty eye opening you would think otherwise. The reason Mugabe became president was because of the racist whites who tried everything to hold onto power.
You’re the pre-Zimbabwe white Rhodesian moralizing to the other whites that “they’re just racist for not wanting mugabe as president.
This post was edited on 4/21/19 at 3:56 pm
Posted on 4/21/19 at 3:58 pm to Clark14
quote:No
It appears that this is happening where an existing fence ends
This event occurred southeast of El Paso. At that location, the existing fence is located some distance (perhaps several hundred yards) north of the actual river bed. The event took place between the river and the fence.
Posted on 4/21/19 at 3:59 pm to Strannix
The SPLC, ADL, HIAS, and ACLU must have called their thugs in Trump's FBI and told them to stop this guy.
Trump's executive branch durrin work!
Trump's executive branch durrin work!
Posted on 4/21/19 at 4:00 pm to mmcgrath
Rhodesia was extremely kind to the blacks they let in
Remember: when Cecil Rhodes arrived to the area with his column of pioneers, it was NOT inhabited. The blacks that lived in Rhodesia were descendants of people who sought refuge there from conflict, poverty, and strife elsewhere north of the Zambezi river
Blacks in Rhodesia enjoyed a modern economy, universal health care, and safety
Rhodesia was wrong to deny them voting or representative rights, but that was because the whites in the nation worried that by giving them the right to vote, they would elect an authoritarian who wanted to confiscate all the land whites owned.
That fear turned out to be prescient
Rhodesia was superior to Zimbabwe in every way but the already mentioned lack of political rights for blacks
Remember: when Cecil Rhodes arrived to the area with his column of pioneers, it was NOT inhabited. The blacks that lived in Rhodesia were descendants of people who sought refuge there from conflict, poverty, and strife elsewhere north of the Zambezi river
Blacks in Rhodesia enjoyed a modern economy, universal health care, and safety
Rhodesia was wrong to deny them voting or representative rights, but that was because the whites in the nation worried that by giving them the right to vote, they would elect an authoritarian who wanted to confiscate all the land whites owned.
That fear turned out to be prescient
Rhodesia was superior to Zimbabwe in every way but the already mentioned lack of political rights for blacks
Posted on 4/21/19 at 4:03 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:
Rhodesia was wrong to deny them voting or representative rights, but that was because the whites in the nation worried that by giving them the right to vote, they would elect an authoritarian who wanted to confiscate all the land whites owned.
They weren't wrong to deny them rights. They were wrong to give their country away to the outsiders, and South Africa and the United States will be wrong in doing the exact same thing.
Posted on 4/21/19 at 4:04 pm to mmcgrath
quote:
The "other whites" were racist. Pretty eye opening you would think otherwise. The reason Mugabe became president was because of the racist whites who tried everything to hold onto power.
Too bad the White people didn't succeed. It's an embarrassing failure there and in South Africa, tbh.
This post was edited on 4/21/19 at 4:16 pm
Posted on 4/21/19 at 4:06 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:Agreed
Rhodesia was superior to Zimbabwe in every way but the already mentioned lack of political rights for blacks
quote:This is even more incorrect as to Rhodesia than as to South Africa.
Remember: when Cecil Rhodes arrived to the area with his column of pioneers, it was NOT inhabited.
quote:Some, but only a minority.
The blacks that lived in Rhodesia were descendants of people who sought refuge there from conflict, poverty, and strife elsewhere north of the Zambezi river
Posted on 4/21/19 at 4:10 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:I agree with most of that but the whites in Rhodesia fought tooth and nail for decades against black people having any say. That produced anger and resentment and a very messy transition. If they had been less racist and biggoted over that time you could make a case for them, but they were racist killers who wanted power.
Rhodesia was extremely kind to the blacks they let in
Remember: when Cecil Rhodes arrived to the area with his column of pioneers, it was NOT inhabited. The blacks that lived in Rhodesia were descendants of people who sought refuge there from conflict, poverty, and strife elsewhere north of the Zambezi river
Blacks in Rhodesia enjoyed a modern economy, universal health care, and safety
Rhodesia was wrong to deny them voting or representative rights, but that was because the whites in the nation worried that by giving them the right to vote, they would elect an authoritarian who wanted to confiscate all the land whites owned.
That fear turned out to be prescient
Rhodesia was superior to Zimbabwe in every way but the already mentioned lack of political rights for blacks
Posted on 4/21/19 at 4:15 pm to mmcgrath
quote:
I agree with most of that but the whites in Rhodesia fought tooth and nail for decades against black people having any say. That produced anger and resentment and a very messy transition. If they had been less racist and biggoted over that time you could make a case for them, but they were racist killers who wanted power.
The fate of Rhodesia and the fate of South Africa was sealed when the west turned their back on the White people who built these nations for themselves and their posterity, and not for the welfare of black African natives.
Posted on 4/21/19 at 4:19 pm to AggieHank86
My son helped engineer and build the El Paso fence,Perhaps they should use some of the money to extend that fence.
I saw a picture of one of the vigilantes standing next to the end of the fence,that's where I drew the conclusion from.
That's why why I figured they should start there with building new fence.That is a an area where it is really bad on the Mexico side.My son and coworkers were told not to venture over to Juarez,Mexico.
I saw a picture of one of the vigilantes standing next to the end of the fence,that's where I drew the conclusion from.
That's why why I figured they should start there with building new fence.That is a an area where it is really bad on the Mexico side.My son and coworkers were told not to venture over to Juarez,Mexico.
Posted on 4/21/19 at 4:22 pm to Clark14
My apologies. I was actually thinking about the confrontation between the Mexican army and the two US soldiers in the unmarked vehicle. I do not recall exactly where this individual was arrested.
Posted on 4/21/19 at 5:14 pm to AggieHank86
No apology needed.
There is too much stupid crap being circulated that it's difficult to keep up.
The situation we have down there should be easy to address,but egos and politics get in the way.
There is too much stupid crap being circulated that it's difficult to keep up.
The situation we have down there should be easy to address,but egos and politics get in the way.
Posted on 4/22/19 at 10:35 am to AggieHank86
quote:so you don't know. that's all you had to say. you made a disparaging comment about me personally because you know your argument sucks
A JD with honors from a top-10 law school and 30 years in practice, as compared to your apparent GED
Posted on 4/22/19 at 10:36 am to AggieHank86
quote:WHICH HAS NO BEARING ON PROTECTING ILLEGAL ALIENS. you keep missing the point. color me surprised
The law varies greatly from state to state
Posted on 4/22/19 at 10:41 am to TBoy
quote:way to strawman. LIMITED fed govt. as much state/local as is necessary. why does it not surprise me that you criticize something you can't accurately represent
the typical right wing Poli Board poster’s vision of a great society is no central government
quote:again, nope. those militias only exist because POLITICIANS are failing at their jobs. people are taking matters into their own hands and there's no way in h e double hockey sticks you can justify criticizing them for protecting their land from intruders. yet again, libs criticizing from the comfort of their basement couches far from the border. why aren't you taking in these illegals to protect them from the bible toting, fig hating kkk nazis?
a polluted wasteland controlled by numerous independent heavily armed militias?
the existence of the fed govt does not eliminate their right to defend themselves.
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