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Evidence of Fraud
Posted on 9/24/20 at 10:59 am
Posted on 9/24/20 at 10:59 am
As I think about what would and would not justify Trump not conceding the election in a timely manner, the two most obvious thoughts that come to mind are : (1) very very close vote counts, so you need to make sure the votes are counted right; and (2) evidence of fraud.
I think we can expect (1) to happen, because we've seen this before, and the election might be close in some states.
But do we really expect "evidence of fraud" with the mail in ballots to be apparent early enough to deal with it? And evidence of fraud doesn't mean conclusive proof of fraud. And people allege fraud happens all the time. It's not going to get unraveled quickly if there is fraud.
And we have one side all fired up that there will be fraud, and the other all fired up that the other side will claim fraud and cling to power.
I see the truth being elusive this election, and I'm a little worried. Anybody else?
I am hoping for a landslide one way or the other, where it's not even close.
I think we can expect (1) to happen, because we've seen this before, and the election might be close in some states.
But do we really expect "evidence of fraud" with the mail in ballots to be apparent early enough to deal with it? And evidence of fraud doesn't mean conclusive proof of fraud. And people allege fraud happens all the time. It's not going to get unraveled quickly if there is fraud.
And we have one side all fired up that there will be fraud, and the other all fired up that the other side will claim fraud and cling to power.
I see the truth being elusive this election, and I'm a little worried. Anybody else?
I am hoping for a landslide one way or the other, where it's not even close.
This post was edited on 9/24/20 at 11:00 am
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Posted on 9/24/20 at 11:09 am to baybeefeetz
wasn't a trump lawsuit just tossed out of court this week because of lack of proof of fraud?
Posted on 9/24/20 at 11:14 am to redneck hippie
If I am either party, I am not conceding. To much frickery is going to happen
Posted on 9/24/20 at 11:17 am to saints5021
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To much frickery is going to happen
Which is precisely why being able to prove the frickery is of Paramount importance.
The entirety of the virus Panic has been to establish the mail-in voting paradigm.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 11:21 am to baybeefeetz
At this point, I don't care.
The Left have announced their intention to steal the election after 4 years of trying a number of coup attempts.
I am for whatever measures that see them destroyed permanently, I no longer view them as human beings worthy of Western Civilization.
The Left have announced their intention to steal the election after 4 years of trying a number of coup attempts.
I am for whatever measures that see them destroyed permanently, I no longer view them as human beings worthy of Western Civilization.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 11:38 am to oogabooga68
I think you will see some districts close the polls and Trump wins 52 vs 48. Then mail ins flood in and Biden wins.
So you will see a court case. The dems will argue "our people vote by mail and late so its no surprise". Statistical bull shite so it will end up in court.
Lots of cases and lots of them rolling up the courts to the Supreme Court.
They need to then throw out all the mail in ballots "harvested" after the polls close ALL of them to be fair.
So you will see a court case. The dems will argue "our people vote by mail and late so its no surprise". Statistical bull shite so it will end up in court.
Lots of cases and lots of them rolling up the courts to the Supreme Court.
They need to then throw out all the mail in ballots "harvested" after the polls close ALL of them to be fair.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 11:42 am to trinidadtiger
In person only voting would prevent a lot of the bulls but being described. And it would not spread Covid.
Would be interesting if they had President only ballots that a person could choose. Might help with the lines and distancing and sanitizing that will undoubtedly be a big part of this election.
Would be interesting if they had President only ballots that a person could choose. Might help with the lines and distancing and sanitizing that will undoubtedly be a big part of this election.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 11:45 am to baybeefeetz
Really comes down to the Secretary of State in each state. How many states has SOS’s on record to delaying certification of the ballots to count mail in ballots?
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Posted on 9/24/20 at 11:52 am to hottub
If mail in voting is allowed, why wouldn't they count until a reasonable deadline?
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Posted on 9/24/20 at 11:55 am to baybeefeetz
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If mail in voting is allowed, why wouldn't the voter ensure that their ballot is postmarked by the deadline?
Posted on 9/24/20 at 11:55 am to VoxDawg
Oh well that fo sho!
Posted on 9/24/20 at 11:55 am to baybeefeetz
I’m hoping for a landslide either way as that will be our best chance to avoid a major constitutional crisis.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 12:04 pm to baybeefeetz
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and the other all fired up that the other side will claim fraud and cling to power.
Weird.
You would think they would want to install measures that would help detect and prevent such fraud from occurring to remove that criticism and its justification to "cling to power".
But for some reason, at every turn, they fight against any such safeguards.
Its almost as if they were full of shyt.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 12:17 pm to McChowder
It's because they think the other side uses the idea of potential fraud to force in person voting, which they think is problematic this year.
And I actually think a lot of them really think it's outdated that we have to show up in person to cast a vote. Maybe it could be, but not until it's fraud proof.
But then again in person voting is not fraud proof.
And I actually think a lot of them really think it's outdated that we have to show up in person to cast a vote. Maybe it could be, but not until it's fraud proof.
But then again in person voting is not fraud proof.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 1:29 pm to baybeefeetz
That’s my point. If the sos sets the deadline and hopefully they stick to the deadlines.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 1:35 pm to trinidadtiger
Ballots postmarked after election day should not count. Period...
After that there is too much chance of them seeing the numbers that night and sending votes in that are enough to beat the election day results.
Any ballot boxes found in car trunks way after election day and sent in to be "counted"; the finder should be thrown in jail.
After that there is too much chance of them seeing the numbers that night and sending votes in that are enough to beat the election day results.
Any ballot boxes found in car trunks way after election day and sent in to be "counted"; the finder should be thrown in jail.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 1:36 pm to baybeefeetz
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(2) evidence of fraud.
Are democrats involved in the election?
Posted on 9/24/20 at 1:58 pm to baybeefeetz
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If mail in voting is allowed, why wouldn't they count until a reasonable deadline?
ummmm
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Article II, Clause 4 of the Constitution gives Congress the power to determine Election Day:
“The Congress may determine the Time of choosing the Electors, and the Day on which they shall give their Votes; which Day shall be the same throughout the United States.”
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Election Day has been set for the first Tuesday after the first Monday in November since 1845 by act of Congress.
They allowed Monday as a travel day to get to your polling place. So if they allowed only one whole day back in 1845, there is no reason in todays advanced society to allow days beyond the explicit nationwide cutoff. It simply guarantees fraud
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