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re: Erickson: Trump pauses study on Old River Control Structure
Posted on 8/7/25 at 12:12 pm to prplhze2000
Posted on 8/7/25 at 12:12 pm to prplhze2000
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That study has been paused indefinitely. It needs to be resumed immediately. The economic consequences to the American economy would be profound if something happens and the five year study is desperately needed.
How long were they doing this study while fully funded? Why were they unable to complete the task while fully funded? If it's so desperately needed, why weren't funds secured and the study completed anytime over the last 10 years? Why does the study need to last 5 years and why is 5 years specifically the correct amount of data? Why can't we use existing data rather than 5 years of new data to form a conclusion?
Or is this another give me money and trust us scenario?
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Posted on 8/7/25 at 12:21 pm to TigerFanatic99
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How much flow can be allowed to naturally go to the red river before New Orleans is affected? How can we manage the red river to take that flow in a path and way that will not destroy the industry and communities there?
This is what the ORCS does.
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Take away enough pressure so the ORCS isn't a ticking time bomb for a few more centuries.
You can’t do this without human interference in some form or fashion. Regardless of what form or fashion, this will always be a ticking time bomb due to topography and fluid dynamics.
Also, human interference caused this issue when Captain Shreve cleared the Great Raft. So it’s up to us to continue to attempt to keep the Mississippi River on its original course.
This post was edited on 8/7/25 at 12:39 pm
Posted on 8/7/25 at 12:43 pm to Riverside
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Stop with the doomsday prophecies.
Are you suggesting that lots of areas in south Louisiana do not flood, the Mississippi River doesn't dry up and prevent barge traffic from flowing, and that a ton of people would have their access to fresh water compromised? Because I don't think none of that is a "doomsday" prophecy if the Old River Control Structure fails.
Posted on 8/7/25 at 12:47 pm to prplhze2000
For those interested, I just stumbled upon this three part article from Weather Underground written by Dr. Jeff Masters in 2019.
America's Achilles' Heel: the Mississippi River's Old River Control Structure
America's Achilles' Heel: the Mississippi River's Old River Control Structure
Posted on 8/7/25 at 12:49 pm to prplhze2000
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Problem with scumbags like you is you can't handle any criticism or questioning from your own side. No better than progressive nut jobs.
Lots of bullshite criticism going around.
Posted on 8/7/25 at 12:50 pm to prplhze2000
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and the five year study is desperately needed.
It doesnt take 5 years to study.
Figure it the frick out.
Posted on 8/7/25 at 12:53 pm to prplhze2000
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If the Army project collapses, the rivers merge, South Louisiana floods, and most of the nation’s oil and gas refining capacity disappears within a week. Barge traffic up the Mississippi ends. Drinking water for millions is profoundly altered.
So what happens to Louisiana in 200, 500 or 1000 years? I'm betting on the river.
Posted on 8/7/25 at 12:54 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
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I'm betting on the river.
Well, historically the river has always won...
Posted on 8/7/25 at 1:01 pm to prplhze2000
Would not affect the ability of barges at all. Reduced flow going past Baton Rouge would actually help the tugboats when moving barges.
It of course would be a net negative and would be huge. If they are truly concerned they need to take the money from this study and use it to start dredging between Baton Rouge and the Old River control structure. That would relieve a lot of the pressure on the structures.
It of course would be a net negative and would be huge. If they are truly concerned they need to take the money from this study and use it to start dredging between Baton Rouge and the Old River control structure. That would relieve a lot of the pressure on the structures.
Posted on 8/7/25 at 1:03 pm to The Maj
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Well, historically the river has always won...
Petroleum will likely be gone in 200 years and certainly in 500. While we may think it is silly to think that far in advance, there will be something in Louisiana in 200 years and that will include a big-assed river.
Posted on 8/7/25 at 1:08 pm to prplhze2000
I’m not sure what the study was accomplishing but it would suck for a lot of people if the river changed its course.
The money would probably be better spent to upgrade the structure although I think that should be financed by the state of Louisiana.
The money would probably be better spent to upgrade the structure although I think that should be financed by the state of Louisiana.
Posted on 8/7/25 at 1:44 pm to prplhze2000
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