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“embryonic pulsing”
Posted on 5/31/19 at 10:50 am
Posted on 5/31/19 at 10:50 am
We’ve been told countless times that journalists are the bravest of brave firefighters. But when it comes to telling the truth about abortion, they aren’t nearly as courageous as we’ve been led to believe.
Remember Alyssa Milano’s new favorite super-sciencey term, “fetal pole cardiac activity”? Well, make way, because there’s a new don’t-call-it-a-heartbeat euphemism in town:
replying to @xan_desanctis and 6 others
In an article on the Louisiana heartbeat bill, @nytimes refers to a fetal heartbeat as “embryonic pulsing,” taking its cues from the euphemisms of abortion-rights activists.
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Remember Alyssa Milano’s new favorite super-sciencey term, “fetal pole cardiac activity”? Well, make way, because there’s a new don’t-call-it-a-heartbeat euphemism in town:
replying to @xan_desanctis and 6 others
In an article on the Louisiana heartbeat bill, @nytimes refers to a fetal heartbeat as “embryonic pulsing,” taking its cues from the euphemisms of abortion-rights activists.
LINK
Posted on 5/31/19 at 10:52 am to Jbird
Seems like that's an awfully convenient way to try and skirt the heartbeat bills...
Posted on 5/31/19 at 10:53 am to VoxDawg
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Seems like that's an awfully convenient way to try and skirt the heartbeat bills...
Or a way to understand the complex issue of an embryo not having a heart. Can you have a heartbeat without a heart?.
Posted on 5/31/19 at 10:58 am to LSUconvert
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Or a way to understand the complex issue of an embryo not having a heart. Can you have a heartbeat without a heart?.
Can you have an abortion without being pregnant which would ultimately result in the birth of a child if not for said abortion?
Posted on 5/31/19 at 11:02 am to LSUconvert
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Or a way to understand the complex issue of an embryo not having a heart. Can you have a heartbeat without a heart?.
Libs and their linguistic semantics... Tale as old as time.
Posted on 5/31/19 at 11:04 am to VoxDawg
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Libs and their linguistic semantics... Tale as old as time.
Words have meaning, I know that's difficult for you to understand. Eventually you're gonna have to learn, though.
Posted on 5/31/19 at 11:09 am to LSUconvert
quote:convert, the working man's Bamatool.
Words have meaning, I know that's difficult for you to understand. Eventually you're gonna have to learn, though.
Posted on 5/31/19 at 11:14 am to VoxDawg
quote:I have never understood why some people are so easily upset by the use of terminology that is emotionally-neutral and scientifically- and medically-accurate. Baffling.quote:Libs and their linguistic semantics... Tale as old as time.
Or a way to understand the complex issue of an embryo not having a heart. Can you have a heartbeat without a heart?.
Posted on 5/31/19 at 11:26 am to AggieHank86
Embryonic heart pulsation is the earliest proof that the embryo is alive. Cardiac pulsation has been documented in utero by transvaginal scanning as early as 36 days menstrual age, the time when the heart tube starts to beat.
Posted on 5/31/19 at 11:33 am to Jbird
quote:I don't know about that. I would think that the first evidence of "life" is the point at which an embryo starts to process nutrients and convert those nutrients into further growth. Up to that point, the developing organism is simply cannibalizing materials which were contained in the ovum.
Embryonic heart pulsation is the earliest proof that the embryo is alive.
quote:Yes. Completely accurate.
Cardiac pulsation has been documented in utero by transvaginal scanning as early as 36 days menstrual age
quote:Not entirely accurate. There is a REASON medical science uses different terminology (pulsing) at this stage ... because it IS different (versus "beating").
the time when the heart tube starts to beat
Of course, it DOES serve the same function.
Posted on 5/31/19 at 11:36 am to AggieHank86
The embryonic heart is the first functioning organ in the human body (Keller, 2007), and related cardiovascular organs are influenced by the mechanical environment provided by this pulsatile flow, either via shear forces (le Noble et al., 2004) or gradients in pressure leading to circumferential strain in blood vessels (Lucitti et al., 2006). The immediate formation of a primitive heart tube and subsequent chamber, valve, and vascular branching occurs in concert with these mechanical forces (Keller et al., 2007). Confocal microscopy has allowed researchers to look within the developing embryos over time to probe both spatial and temporal patterns resulting from these mechanical roots
Posted on 5/31/19 at 12:19 pm to Jbird
Recently someone posted some photos that a guy in Scandinavia managed to make of a child in the womb, at like 3 months.
I'd like to do a kind of test. Know how some people play Bach or whatever to their unborn child to make them brainy or something.
So here's my indecent proposal. Let's see at what point a fetus responds to stimuli. Not pain, but more like "What the heck is that racket?"
Dollars to doughnuts at some point you'll see them reacting to the beat.
I'd like to do a kind of test. Know how some people play Bach or whatever to their unborn child to make them brainy or something.
So here's my indecent proposal. Let's see at what point a fetus responds to stimuli. Not pain, but more like "What the heck is that racket?"
Dollars to doughnuts at some point you'll see them reacting to the beat.
Posted on 5/31/19 at 12:22 pm to AggieHank86
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I have never understood why some people are so easily upset by the use of terminology that is emotionally-neutral and scientifically- and medically-accurate.
Says a resident banner-carrier of the party who is terrified by words like black, illegal alien, or wall.
Posted on 5/31/19 at 12:22 pm to AggieHank86
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I don't know about that. I would think that the first evidence of "life" is the point at which an embryo starts to process nutrients and convert those nutrients into further growth. Up to that point, the developing organism is simply cannibalizing materials which were contained in the ovum.
Do you have any freaking idea how open-ended that is? Ever hear of mold? Fungi?
Come to think of it, everything but plants sustain life by "cannibalizing" materials that just happen to be around.
Posted on 5/31/19 at 12:22 pm to AggieHank86
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I have never understood why some people are so easily upset by the use of terminology that is emotionally-neutral and scientifically- and medically-accurate. Baffling.
You mean the terminology "life begins at conception"? IKR
Posted on 5/31/19 at 12:23 pm to LSUconvert
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Or a way to understand the complex issue of allowing me to murder a baby. Can't you just allow me and my morally bankrupt ilk the right to this?.
FIFY.
Posted on 5/31/19 at 12:29 pm to VoxDawg
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Says a resident banner-carrier of the party who is terrified by words like black, illegal alien, or wall.
Or such controversial terms as "male" or "female". So hurtful and hateful.
Posted on 5/31/19 at 12:34 pm to LSUconvert
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Or a way to understand the complex issue of an embryo not having a heart. Can you have a heartbeat without a heart?.
according to Mayo Clinic ( Mayo Clinic) the heart forms around week 5.
Most women don't know they are pregnant until week 4-5.
and remember, you are not pregnant in weeks 1-2, because the 40 weeks of pregnancy are counted from last period, and ovulation is typically 2 weeks from last period...Implantation is around week 4
So the heart beat bill would all but kill abortion, except the morning after pill, because most women will find out they are pregnant at same time heart is formed
Posted on 5/31/19 at 12:50 pm to Sunbeam
quote:Both of which are “life.”. I do not understand the point you are trying to make.quote:Do you have any freaking idea how open-ended that is? Ever hear of mold? Fungi?
I don't know about that. I would think that the first evidence of "life" is the point at which an embryo starts to process nutrients and convert those nutrients into further growth. Up to that point, the developing organism is simply cannibalizing materials which were contained in the ovum.
You DO realize that I said (in essence) that “life” for an embryo begins BEFORE heart activity, right?
Here is the NASA discussion on “life.”
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How to define "life" is a sweeping question that affects whole branches of biology, biochemistry, genetics, and ultimately the search for life elsewhere in the universe.
Comparing the semantic task to the ancient Hindu story of identifying an elephant by having each of six blind men touch only the tail, the trunk, or the leg, what answer a biologist might give can differ dramatically from the answer given by a theoretical physicist.
However, some initial agreement is possible. Living things tend to be complex and highly organized. They have the ability to take in energy from the environment and transform it for growth and reproduction. Organisms tend toward homeostasis: an equilibrium of parameters that define their internal environment. Living creatures respond, and their stimulation fosters a reaction-like motion, recoil, and in advanced forms, learning. Life is reproductive, as some kind of copying is needed for evolution to take hold through a population's mutation and natural selection. To grow and develop, living creatures need foremost to be consumers, since growth includes changing biomass, creating new individuals, and the shedding of waste.
To qualify as a living thing, a creature must meet some variation for all these criteria. For example, a crystal can grow, reach equilibrium, and even move in response to stimuli, but lacks what commonly would be thought of as a biological nervous system.
Posted on 5/31/19 at 1:12 pm to Jbird
Having a conversation with a liberal on pretty much any subject is like talking to a 16 year old who has just gotten busted doing something you told them not to do.
Parent - I told you that you would be in trouble if I ever caught you having sex!
Child - I wasn't having sex, I was fricking.
Parent - Excuse me?
Child - fricking and sex aren't the same thing. Words mean things!!!! If you like, I will never have sex or frick again.
1 week later. Parent busts kid again.
Parent - Um, didn't we cover this?
Child - I wasn't having sex or fricking. I was making love!
Parent - I told you that you would be in trouble if I ever caught you having sex!
Child - I wasn't having sex, I was fricking.
Parent - Excuse me?
Child - fricking and sex aren't the same thing. Words mean things!!!! If you like, I will never have sex or frick again.
1 week later. Parent busts kid again.
Parent - Um, didn't we cover this?
Child - I wasn't having sex or fricking. I was making love!
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