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DU Melt of the Day: "F_ck the Military!"

Posted on 11/29/19 at 6:24 pm
Posted by Sticky37
Member since Jun 2016
506 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 6:24 pm
Pinko commie scum

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Why do we buy into the worship of the military?

When my son was about 11, I sat him down and told him that no matter what, I would never support him joining the military. No way would I ever allow him to be cannon fodder in a rich man’s war. When we say “thank you for your service”, whose interests are they actually being “served”? As a young girl when I learned about war, I was horrified and couldn’t believe there could be such a thing. In my little girl’s mind, it was a game where the opposing teams died. I remember thinking this couldn’t be true. Perhaps if we ever evolve as a species, people will look back and be horrified that war was ever a thing. Or not. I’m expecting to be pilloried by DUes, but to me war and worship of the military is kind of insane as its most basic level. An please no lectures about how the military “protects my freedom”. The military industrial complex could give two shits about this black girl’s “freedom”. Really I think most people joint the military because they lack other options, but they’re given the consolation prize of “respect” and “gratitude” so everybody feels better about it.




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well someone has to die to protect the interests of American multi-national corporations nt




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The US military has not protected our freedom

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within my lifetime. But to remind people of that fact is to invite the kind of groupthink response that has brought us to this dead-end situation we’re in.

This nostalgic jingoism that passes for patriotism seems to be nearly impossible to overcome.




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I'm sure little 6 year old Amira in Afghanistan

will be comforted in the world to come by the knowledge that her being shredded by an American missile helped give John Smith of North Platte, Nebraska job security and some college money.




PURE FILTH
Posted by Sticky37
Member since Jun 2016
506 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 6:26 pm to
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Screw hired killers. Worthless POS -- Gallagher -- murdered children in some gungho fit of hatred.

Veterans are disproportionately involved in violence, like mass murders, too.

White nationalism remains a problem for the military, poll suggests


Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
35915 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 6:28 pm to
I'm sure these same DU folks want us in Syria and at war with Russia.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134817 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 6:28 pm to
I'd bet $100 these same people lost their minds when Trump said he was pulling out of Syria
Posted by AthensTiger
Athens, GA
Member since Jul 2008
2977 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 6:28 pm to
I can't say what I want to say .
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
141422 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 6:34 pm to
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Listen all you ignorant hypocritical trash that are out there ranting up your White superiority and White supremacy......frick you all. Your european ancestors came over here and committed the largest genocide in the world's history on the 100 Million residents of this country. Columbus day is a complete travesty, being nothing more than a total pack of lies, and Thanksgiving even more so
Wikipedia
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While it is difficult to determine exactly how many Natives lived in North America before Columbus,[6]estimates range from a low of 2.1 million[7] to 7 million[8] people to a high of 18 million.[9]

Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79595 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 6:36 pm to
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Why do we buy into the worship of the military?



99% of the military aren’t looking to be “worshipped” and don’t give two fricks what these losers think of them. They’re too busy doing a job that allows said losers the freedom to be assholes.
This post was edited on 11/29/19 at 6:37 pm
Posted by BuzzSaw 12
The Dark Side Of The Moon
Member since Dec 2010
5207 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 6:40 pm to
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The military industrial complex could give two shits about this black girl’s “freedom”. Really I think most people joint the military because they lack other options, but they’re given the consolation prize of “respect” and “gratitude” so everybody feels better about it.




Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 6:44 pm to
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99% of the military aren’t looking to be “worshipped” and don’t give two fricks what these losers think of them
hard to believe anyone could be so clueless. The scene on curb is absolute reality. Maybe you'll wise up some day and realize they all want their egos to be stroked.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48809 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 6:50 pm to
A lot of what she said isn’t wrong sadly,

WW1 - no business there

WW2 - we ensure the deaths of 100 million souls to Communism

Korea - saved people from communists

Vietnam ???

Iraq 1 and 2 fought for Israel and Saudi Arabia

Afghanistan - the Taliban will take over a few months after we leave
This post was edited on 11/29/19 at 6:53 pm
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 7:22 pm to
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When my son was about 11, I sat him down and told him that no matter what, I would never support him joining the military.
Had this conversation with an 11 year old? Well, that's just insane.

Also, really? You just gonna throw your kid to the side if they choose the military?

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As a young girl when I learned about war, I was horrified and couldn’t believe there could be such a thing. In my little girl’s mind, it was a game where the opposing teams died. I remember thinking this couldn’t be true
So, now she STILL thinks with her little girl mind? Well that's smart.

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The military industrial complex could give two shits about this black girl’s “freedom”
Posted by Carl Tuckerson
The wind-swept plains
Member since Oct 2019
1026 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 7:28 pm to
The way most of that is delivered is hyperbolic nonsense, but they're not very far off. The only war anybody on this board could possibly have lived through, for which you could make an argument that we belonged in that war, was WWII, and even then there's a pretty compelling argument that we took our involvement too far. I'm closing in on 30 and the US has not fought a single war in my lifetime that could be described as anything more than mercenary adventurism. The institution simply is not what it was.

That's not an indictment of the brave men and women in it, but I'm honestly a bit surprised that the fact that those brave soldiers' sacrifices have been a total waste due to inept politicians is even controversial at this point.
Posted by DyeHardDylan
Member since Nov 2011
7728 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 7:32 pm to
I oppose most military operations, unless we are directly attacked. Having said that, I still revere the people that wear the uniform of the United States. I don’t blame them for the wars they’re asked to fight in; I blame the government.
This post was edited on 11/29/19 at 7:34 pm
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 7:33 pm to
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The way most of that is delivered is hyperbolic nonsense, but they're not very far off. The only war anybody on this board could possibly have lived through, for which you could make an argument that we belonged in that war, was WWII, and even then there's a pretty compelling argument that we took our involvement too far.


Perhaps.

But, blaming the people in the military for it is silly which is what these DU people seem to want to do.

It's not like the military is starting the wars.
Posted by Carl Tuckerson
The wind-swept plains
Member since Oct 2019
1026 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 7:37 pm to
I have no doubt. You're definitely right that the rank-and-file being blasted in those quotes didn't start any stupid wars. It's not their fault.
Posted by TigahTeeth
Georgia
Member since Feb 2016
5166 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 7:39 pm to
If a lot of what she said isn’t wrong, then how do you or her explain the fact that people/countries have been in war since the beginning of time? Take America out of the equation totally and there will still be wars just like there always was. We need the military. Like it or not. If not for the military, some country will take everything we have.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48809 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 7:45 pm to
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If a lot of what she said isn’t wrong, then how do you or her explain the fact that people/countries have been in war since the beginning of time? Take America out of the equation totally and there will still be wars just like there always was. We need the military. Like it or not. If not for the military, some country will take everything we have.


What was being taken from us in Afghanistan? Iraq? I’m all for a powerful military to project power, we should have taken Cuba and Mexico, we should own the Western Hemisphere. But trillions of dollars and thousands of live for nothing around the globe? To enrich international high finance, look who owns these companies...name a defense contractor and look who owns them.

Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
79892 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 7:47 pm to
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If a lot of what she said isn’t wrong, then how do you or her explain the fact that people/countries have been in war since the beginning of time? Take America out of the equation totally and there will still be wars just like there always was. We need the military. Like it or not. If not for the military, some country will take everything we have.


It's like carrying a firearm. You don't carry it with the intention to use it. You carry it to convince someone else not to.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 7:48 pm to
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An please no lectures


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this black girl’s “freedom”


She didn't even have to tell me that. Stop typing how you talk for the love of god.
Posted by Jeff Boomhauer
Arlen, TX
Member since Jun 2016
3552 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 8:03 pm to
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I oppose most military operations, unless we are directly attacked.


I’m sure a lot of people will disagree, but I don’t so much have a problem with us intervening in conflicts. My issue is that our goal doesn’t seem to be outright victory. If the US is going to get involved then we should be all in. We should make their arse quit. When we pack up to come home there should be nothing left but ashes and rubble. Our last action in country should be spreading salt over the whole damn place.

Take ISIS for example. The fact that there was still anyone willing to try to create an Islamic State tells me that we went too easy on the taliban and al qaeda.
This post was edited on 11/29/19 at 8:26 pm
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