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D'Souza or Shapiro?
Posted on 9/12/17 at 12:21 am
Posted on 9/12/17 at 12:21 am
Who does a better job of explaining the conservative position?
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Posted on 9/12/17 at 12:34 am to Jax-Tiger
Shapiro.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 12:43 am to Jax-Tiger
Shapiro by far
Posted on 9/12/17 at 6:41 am to Jax-Tiger
Shapiro
Posted on 9/12/17 at 6:56 am to Jax-Tiger
quote:
Who does a better job of explaining the conservative position?
I don't know that I have ever heard D'Souza explain the conservative position. I have only heard him expose the lies, hypocrisy and crimes of the leftist mindset.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 7:25 am to Jax-Tiger
I may have to listen to him at .75x speed, but Shapiro is the best thing conservatives have going for them.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 7:26 am to Jax-Tiger
Shapiro, easily
Posted on 9/12/17 at 8:04 am to notsince98
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I don't know that I have ever heard D'Souza explain the conservative position. I have only heard him expose the lies, hypocrisy and crimes of the leftist mindset.
Perfectly stated. Each has a different area of expertise, and both are excellent at what they do.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 8:07 am to Jax-Tiger
Shapiro by a long shot. I can very rarely find faults in Shapiro's reasoning. D'Souza isn't nearly as convincing, concise, and decisive as Shapiro is.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 8:09 am to Jax-Tiger
Shapiro
D'Souza is awful.
D'Souza is awful.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 8:24 am to Jax-Tiger
Shapiro does a great job.
D'Souza is a lying hack and con man. I don't see him as a conservative af all.
Shapiro all day.
D'Souza is a lying hack and con man. I don't see him as a conservative af all.
Shapiro all day.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 8:42 am to notsince98
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I don't know that I have ever heard D'Souza explain the conservative position. I have only heard him expose the lies, hypocrisy and crimes of the leftist mindset.
I used to think this, also. But if you watch his speeches, he debates !iberals a lot. He does a great job of outlining the conservative position. What he does better than anybody I've seen is frame the argument, and show why the conservative position is better.
Liberals beat the Republicans by framing the argument so that conservatives look mean-spirited.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 8:54 am to Jax-Tiger
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I used to think this, also. But if you watch his speeches, he debates !iberals a lot. He does a great job of outlining the conservative position. What he does better than anybody I've seen is frame the argument, and show why the conservative position is better.
Liberals beat the Republicans by framing the argument so that conservatives look mean-spirited.
I definitely have not seen a whole lot of Danesh. I really like him, though. When I have seen him have discussions or take questions, he usually just points out how the leftist stance can't be considered logical. I mean, yeah, he is clearly conservative as it seems like you are either leftist and if not then you must be conservative. But I haven't really heard him push anything like libertarian or constitutional values on their own.
I wouldn't doubt he does. I just have not had time to see/hear it.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 8:54 am to AlaTiger
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'Souza is a lying hack and con man.
Yea he is a cuck-propagandist. He is the guy that made the documentary talking about American Exceptionalism.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 10:16 am to BlackPawnMartyr
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He is the guy that made the documentary talking about American Exceptionalism.
Oh, the horror... I bet that makes a lot of people uncomfortable...
Posted on 9/12/17 at 10:20 am to notsince98
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When I have seen him have discussions or take questions, he usually just points out how the leftist stance can't be considered logical
That is why I say that he frames the argument well. When a liberal starts the argument about the wall, for example, they always say the wall won't work. Dinesh exposes the fallacy of that argument before he offers his opinion on why it's a good idea.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 10:25 am to Jax-Tiger
Posted on 9/12/17 at 10:55 am to Jax-Tiger
Yea prob makes nasty SJWs on the far left uncomfortable and makes idiot CJWs on the far right giddy. Both extremes are wrong.
This post was edited on 9/12/17 at 10:55 am
Posted on 9/12/17 at 11:33 am to BlackPawnMartyr
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Both extremes are wrong.
I would agree in a sense, but only one side has an agenda to radically transform America, so I can't completely go along with it.
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