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Don't know if Roy Moore dated teenagers when he was in his 30's, but.....

Posted on 11/16/17 at 10:04 pm
Posted by Ramblin Wreck
Member since Aug 2011
3898 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 10:04 pm
These guys dated very young girls.

Jerry Lee Lewis' third wife was his 13 year old cousin. He was 22 at the time.

Bill Wyman dated a 13 year old when he was 47. They married when she turned 18.

Elvis Presley began dating Priscilla when she was 14. He was 24.

Dating girls that young seems pretty creepy to me. As a father of a daughter it actually seems pretty disturbing, but attitudes in the 1960's and 1970's didn't put it in the same creepy category as today. Not making an excesses for Moore if he did date teens back in the 1970's, just pointing out other well known people that did around that same era.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
16989 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 10:09 pm to
It was common practice for good ole baws in their 20's to steal 13, 14 year old girls away from their parents (with the parent's full permission) back in the day. Back then they needed the kids out of the house ASAP, especially in poor or rural areas. The parents needed them married off and out of the house.

So, yeah, lots of us probably have pedophile ancestors (or at least they would be considered pedos today).
Posted by Halftrack
The Wild Blue Yonder
Member since Apr 2015
2763 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 10:10 pm to
So, does that make it ok?
Posted by Wildcat In Germany
Metro Atlanta
Member since May 2017
3094 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 10:10 pm to
Why on Earth would any grown man try to justify an adult male trying to date a female child? For fricks sake, I'm glad that my only child is a male.

If you're not ok with grown men sleeping with little girls, don't make excuses for it. Period.
Posted by AU_Right
Member since Oct 2016
3048 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 10:11 pm to
quote:

Don't know if Roy Moore dated teenagers when he was in his 30's, but.....

Don't forget:
"If I played guitar I'd be Jimmy Page
The girlies I like are underage" - Beastie Boys
This post was edited on 11/17/17 at 7:57 am
Posted by Ramblin Wreck
Member since Aug 2011
3898 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 10:14 pm to
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If you're not ok with grown men sleeping with little girls, don't make excuses for it. Period.


Not making excuses, I said it was creepy. Just pointing out other well known people that did. You can decide if Elvis, Jerry Lee and The Rolling Stones should be stripped of all awards and air play.
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
21229 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 10:17 pm to
quote:

Why on Earth would any grown man try to justify an adult male trying to date a female child?


As a guy with a daughter, I am not condoning it at all.

With that being said, historically speaking this has been normal. Older men marrying young teenage women has our current laws eclipsed by millions of years.

Posted by larry289
Holiday Island, AR
Member since Nov 2009
3858 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 10:20 pm to
More of this occurs in Alabama and Tennessee.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53435 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 10:23 pm to
No, but do you hold past societies accountable to today's standards.

If so, what are we doing today that we will be jailed for 20 years from now?

President Cleveland married a 22 year old while president. She was 27 years younger than him.

FDR married Eleanor in 1905. She was 21.

Posted by Ramblin Wreck
Member since Aug 2011
3898 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 10:23 pm to
quote:

More of this occurs in Alabama and Tennessee.


Jerry Lee Lewis is from Louisiana.
Posted by IllegalPete
Front Range
Member since Oct 2017
7182 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 10:23 pm to
Why on Earth would a grown man claim that doing something that has been done for thousands of years and is perfectly legal in the majority of countries around the world be unusual or creepy or deserving shame?

Some of you people are beyond repair.

Ask yourself, which is creepier, fricking a man in the arse or fricking a legal age female who is fully developed?

Spare me the "child" bullshite. Most women act like children well into their 20s and 30s.

You guys need to quit being manipulated by the religious nuts and feminist nuts.

Or just admit you are gay.
Posted by Wildcat In Germany
Metro Atlanta
Member since May 2017
3094 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 10:31 pm to
quote:

Why on Earth would a grown man claim that doing something that has been done for thousands of years and is perfectly legal in the majority of countries around the world be unusual or creepy or deserving shame?


Because we're not living in primitive ages?

quote:

Some of you people are beyond repair.


Yes, you are.

quote:

Ask yourself, which is creepier, fricking a man in the arse or fricking a legal age female who is fully developed?


If the man is of a consenting age, fricking a minor is infintely more creepy.

quote:


Spare me the "child" bullshite. Most women act like children well into their 20s and 30s.


You're hanging out with the wrong kind of women.

quote:

You guys need to quit being manipulated by the religious nuts and feminist nuts.


I don't subscribe to the religious or feminist platforms.

quote:


Or just admit you are gay.


Nothing wrong with being gay. Something bigly wrong with fricking kids.

Putting up this much of a fight makes it seem like you have a thing for kids. Methinks thou doth protest too much.
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
16712 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 10:33 pm to
quote:

If you're not ok with grown men sleeping with little girls, don't make excuses for it. Period.


What happened to: "if there's grass on the field - play ball!"?
Posted by Wildcat In Germany
Metro Atlanta
Member since May 2017
3094 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 10:35 pm to
quote:

hat happened to: "if there's grass on the field - play ball!"?



That wasn't accepted amongst any group in an entirety.
Posted by Ramblin Wreck
Member since Aug 2011
3898 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 10:35 pm to
quote:

legal age female


Just because something may be legal in Yemen or 50 years ago, doesn't make it not creepy. It's harder to condem people for what may not have been as abnormal 50 years ago, but that doesn't mean I don't shake my head a bit at it if there was a huge age difference. What was an acceptable age difference in the 1970's or the 1870's? I don't know the answer to that.
Posted by white beans
Member since Sep 2009
5637 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 10:36 pm to
As someone who does a lot of genealogy research, I'll submit that everyone posting here is likely an offspring of a pedophile and statutory rapist grandfather under the current definitions.

This post was edited on 11/16/17 at 10:41 pm
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55438 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 10:37 pm to
It's honestly kind of interesting that America bucked the western Hajnal trend for so long - but that may be the result of a frontier society, which was basically a non-entity for a long, long time until disease wiped out an entire continent.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76476 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 10:37 pm to
quote:

So, yeah, lots of us probably have pedophile ancestors (or at least they would be considered pedos today).


Pedophilia actually refers to the sexual attraction of pre-pubescent individuals (basically anyone under 13).

Posted by Sunbeam
Member since Dec 2016
2612 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 10:50 pm to
quote:

It's honestly kind of interesting that America bucked the western Hajnal trend for so long - but that may be the result of a frontier society, which was basically a non-entity for a long, long time until disease wiped out an entire continent.




I don't understand the second half of that statement. A frontier society was a non-entity for a long time? And I guess you are referring to American Indians when you say disease wiped out an entire continent, but I'm not getting what you are driving at.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
17872 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 10:53 pm to
quote:

President Cleveland married a 22 year old while president. She was 27 years younger than him.

FDR married Eleanor in 1905. She was 21.

I believe president johnson married the youngest chick, 16. He was 18.
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