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re: Doesn't it strike you as awfully coincidental? (Science vs Religious Belief)
Posted on 1/2/14 at 12:51 pm to SpidermanTUba
Posted on 1/2/14 at 12:51 pm to SpidermanTUba
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as it begins with the presumption that all scientists are shills
That was the OPs argument. If his argument is that those paying for the studies will affect the science then clearly the supporters for AGW will win.
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Posted on 1/2/14 at 12:52 pm to AUbused
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Yes, thats all quite nice, but unfortunately it completely ignores my argument about monetary motivation. The undeniable fact is the findings of current science is NOT a good thing for any product on earth.......therefore the motive of oil company execs would be to contradict those scientific findings. Thats pretty straight forward.
This is what people choose to ignore. GW deniers always question the veracity of GW scientists based on self-interest while ignoring the self-interest of the "scientists" they quote, which in large part are financed by the petrochemical industry.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 12:53 pm to C
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If his argument is that those paying for the studies will affect the science then clearly the supporters for AGW will win.
If you define any scientist who concludes that AGW has scientific merit as a "supporter" of AGW - then yes, you are right. The supporters of round Earth theory also have a lot more money backing them than the supporters of flat Earth theory.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 12:53 pm to AUbused
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therefore the motive of oil company execs would be to contradict those scientific findings
And you'd be wrong. Find a single OPED or statement from a current oil CEO against AGW. I bet I can find 100 in which they accept AGW and even push legislation to tax carbon on some level.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 12:54 pm to Vegas Bengal
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This is what people choose to ignore. GW deniers always question the veracity of GW scientists based on self-interest while ignoring the self-interest of the "scientists" they quote, which in large part are financed by the petrochemical industry.
These "scientists" almost always "publish" on blogs maintained by scientific "foundations" which are usually just them and a couple of other shills.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 12:54 pm to SpidermanTUba
quote:Absolutely. But... that was AUbused argument... though it isn't original.
Your concept of science is flawed to begin with, as it begins with the presumption that all scientists are shills.
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The denialists don't have to spend a lot of money because maintaining blogs and shill websites is cheap.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 12:55 pm to SpidermanTUba
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any scientist who concludes that AGW has scientific merit as a "supporter" of AGW
I doubt a single dollar comes out of the scientists pockets to fund AGW studies.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 12:56 pm to Vegas Bengal
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Jesus didn't need hearsay but the Bible quoting him is hearsay.
So God was capable of creating all things seen and unseen but incapable of giving modern day believers a reliable copy of his word or to move on men through the Holy Spirit to record what he wanted recoded in writing? Absurd.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 12:56 pm to AUbused
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Yes, thats all quite nice, but unfortunately it completely ignores my argument about monetary motivation
No it doesn't! I addressed it directly! Unless you think profit isnt' a motivation for oil companies... quote:
The undeniable fact is the findings of current science is NOT a good thing for any product on earth.......therefore the motive of oil company execs would be to contradict those scientific findings. Thats pretty straight forward.
Fossil fuels aren't going anywhere. This post was edited on 1/2/14 at 12:59 pm
Posted on 1/2/14 at 12:59 pm to AUbused
quote:Perhaps with the exception of eagle killers (aka windturbines)
The undeniable fact is the findings of current science is NOT a good thing for any product on earth......
Posted on 1/2/14 at 12:59 pm to C
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I doubt a single dollar comes out of the scientists pockets to fund AGW studies.
Wow, employer funded work expenses, what a concept. Maybe they should make the grill guy at McDonalds pay for the meat patties.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 12:59 pm to Vegas Bengal
quote:Examples?
the "scientists" they quote, which in large part are financed by the petrochemical industry.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 1:01 pm to Taxing Authority
LINK
You want actual names, S Baliunas and F.Singer come to mind.
You want actual names, S Baliunas and F.Singer come to mind.
This post was edited on 1/2/14 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 1/2/14 at 1:01 pm to SpidermanTUba
quote:Why does their data incorrect?
These "scientists" almost always "publish" on blogs maintained by scientific "foundations"
quote:Same question.
which are usually just them and a couple of other[s].
This post was edited on 1/2/14 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 1/2/14 at 1:02 pm to Vegas Bengal
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3. This might surprise you but you know very little about the Bible and its history, at least from what you've written on this board. And you've written a lot.
You are very good a regurgitating things that others have written and using others research as your own. I've studied every one of the things that you've mentioned above and know full well what skeptics believe. I would have some serious doubts about my beliefs if like you, I found myself more often in the unbelievers and skeptics camp than of Christians.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 1:02 pm to SpidermanTUba
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LINK
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The study was published Friday in the journal Climatic Change.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 1:03 pm to Taxing Authority
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Why does their data incorrect?
I have no idea what you are asking.
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Same question.
I still don't.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 1:04 pm to SpidermanTUba
quote:Never heard of them. Muchless quoted them...
You want actual names, S Baliunas and F.Singer come to mind.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 1:04 pm to SpidermanTUba
quote:Why does publishing platform invalidate the data?
I have no idea what you are asking.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 1:04 pm to Taxing Authority
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Never heard of them. Muchless quoted them...
I don't really see the relevance of that.
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