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re: Doesn't it strike you as awfully coincidental? (Science vs Religious Belief)

Posted on 1/2/14 at 1:16 pm to
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 1/2/14 at 1:16 pm to
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You just don't do it
What are you talking about?
Posted by SpidermanTUba
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Posted on 1/2/14 at 1:16 pm to
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As is yours that peer review is relegated to a prepublication timeframe, and is conducted solely self-contained by members of the publication's staff.




Peer review is not conducted by a publication's staff. Except in the case of shill foundations, of course.
This post was edited on 1/2/14 at 1:17 pm
Posted by AUbused
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Posted on 1/2/14 at 1:17 pm to
*facepalm*

You are right as well...its the dream of every CEO for scientific consensus to state that their product is a threat to the safety of humanity. They have no motive to produce findings to the contrary, in fact, I bet Exxon execs are out there right now trying to find the next scientist who will say their product will lead to human extinction. Its the ol reverse psychology routine! BRILLIANT!

Guess thats why they pay them the big bucks. :rotflmao:
Posted by SpidermanTUba
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Posted on 1/2/14 at 1:18 pm to
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What are you talking about?


Did you ask how it is these overgrown blogs don't subject their articles to peer review? THey don't. That's how. I don't get the question if that doesn't answer it.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
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Posted on 1/2/14 at 1:18 pm to

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You mean I can read blogs about them that direct my conclusions.
No. The actual emails.

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I think you should read them and get back to us.
I have. And I know that UEA-CRU staff including Phil Jones organized a boycott of several journals because they requried complete data submission for peer review.
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 1/2/14 at 1:19 pm to
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who will say their product will lead to human extinction.


Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
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Posted on 1/2/14 at 1:19 pm to
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. And I know that UEA-CRU staff including Phil Jones organized a boycott of several journals because they requried complete data submission for peer review.



You "know" that yet can't show us exactly how, or even explain why its important.

This post was edited on 1/2/14 at 1:21 pm
Posted by AUbused
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 1/2/14 at 1:21 pm to
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I informed him that pro-AGW funding is many times greater


Check the fortune 100 some time fricktard then come back and tell me that a bunch of jobless greenpeace hippies have more money and power than fricking energy execs. WTF.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 1/2/14 at 1:23 pm to
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these overgrown blogs don't subject their articles to peer review? THey don't.
That is not what peer review is.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
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Posted on 1/2/14 at 1:23 pm to
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Check the fortune 100 some time fricktard then come back and tell me that a bunch of jobless greenpeace hippies have more money and power than fricking energy execs. WTF.



The entire right wing ideology rests on two ideas:
1) The powerful are being constantly victimized by the weak
2) Bigotry, racism, and misogyny should be vigorously defended.

Posted by AUbused
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 1/2/14 at 1:23 pm to
You gotta give me a LITTLE leeway for a bit of hyberbolic fun!
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
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Posted on 1/2/14 at 1:24 pm to
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That is not what peer review is.


What an astute observation. Not subjecting publications to peer review isn't peer review. How long did it take you to figure that out?
Posted by lsusaintsfan4life
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 1/2/14 at 1:26 pm to
It's not a misunderstanding but an over simplification for this message board. The premiss is that things go from organized to chaos, not the opposite unless acted upon by an outside force.

Why aren't other things simply created out of thin air? There is material everywhere and the energy to do so.
Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 1/2/14 at 1:27 pm to
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2) Bigotry, racism, and misogyny should be vigorously defended


Hmmm

What party started the KKK?
Which party was the party of slavery?
What is the current unemployment rate for Blacks under the Obama administration?
What administration has scapegoated women when scandals appear? (Clinton, Lerner, Rice)
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 1/2/14 at 1:27 pm to
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You "know" that yet can't show us exactly how, or even explain why its important.
Im not the one arguing that publishing in a peer review is validating.

I'll take a blog that publishes all of the authors findings, data, and methods over a summary paper in a "peer reviewed" journal any day.
This post was edited on 1/2/14 at 1:31 pm
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
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Posted on 1/2/14 at 1:28 pm to
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What party started the KKK?
Which party was the party of slavery?




Sorry I was talking about modern day politics. Which party do the majority of blacks and women vote for?

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What is the current unemployment rate for Blacks under the Obama administration?



I thought unemployment was caused by people being lazy. Now you're saying the President sets it?

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What administration has scapegoated women when scandals appear? (Clinton, Lerner, Rice)


This post was edited on 1/2/14 at 1:30 pm
Posted by SpidermanTUba
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Posted on 1/2/14 at 1:29 pm to
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Im not the one arguing that publishing in a peer review is validating.


Peer review is a necessary but not sufficient condition for a scientific publication to be useful.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 1/2/14 at 1:33 pm to
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What an astute observation. Not subjecting publications to peer review isn't peer review. How long did it take you to figure that out?
Spidy, i know science isn't your thing.
I know you try to quote 'stuff' to make up for that.
Sometimes you do OK with the method.
Other times you don't.

This is one of those 'other times'. Peer review is an ongoing process. Peer review, scientific insight and correction continues long after publication. The source or location of publication -- even if it is "some blog" -- does not limit peer review in the least.
Posted by C
Houston
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Posted on 1/2/14 at 1:36 pm to
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Check the fortune 100


Seriously go to BP, Exxon, Shell, etc, webisite and see what they say about climate change. It may appear to have been written by
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jobless greenpeace hippies
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/2/14 at 1:39 pm to
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Peer review is not conducted by a publication's staff. Except in the case of shill foundations, of course.


Wasn't this the primary criticism of the climate change emails that were released? They were trying to control the review process and withhold raw data from being published for outside review?
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