- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Coaching Changes
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Do young people have it harder today? Did Boomers ruin everything?
Posted on 12/5/25 at 2:44 pm to boogiewoogie1978
Posted on 12/5/25 at 2:44 pm to boogiewoogie1978
quote:
Yes. Anyone who disagrees is not be honest. Look at wage growth vs prices. Its that simple
Okay, let’s actually look at wage growth compared to inflation - ahh, we see real wages are higher
1
Posted on 12/5/25 at 3:05 pm to BugAC
quote:"
My daughter told me today that the average age of a first home buyer is 38 years old now!
"People aren't getting married in their 20s anymore. Usually they are in the early 30s."
They are primarily getting married in their early 30s because the men have to save up enough money to be able to be seen as a "provider" for a woman. 30 years ago a 24 year old could buy a house out of college - my parents did it at 23 in 1988
quote:
My daughter and husband are both professionals and can only afford a $380 to $400 thousand home at the max now.
"The HORROR!!!! My first home was less than $300k."
It is horrible. You can't find any decent housing for $300k in a city. $300k gets you 1200 square feet in the hood
quote:
A $300 thousand home is a shite hole now
"If you are attempting to live in downtown wherever, yeah. If you live in suburbia, not really.
I challenge you to find a $300k house in DFW that is within 35 minutes of downtown and not in a terrible school district. It's impossible. The entry point for a decent place to raise a family is about $450k if you don't want to commute 1.5 hours to work each way
Posted on 12/5/25 at 3:17 pm to Penrod
quote:Interesting chart, isn't it.
Yes. Anyone who disagrees is not be honest. Look at wage growth vs prices. Its that simple
Okay, let’s actually look at wage growth compared to inflation - ahh, we see real wages are higher
The facts don't remotely resemble what boogiewoogie1978 and others seem to believe
Posted on 12/5/25 at 3:21 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
The facts don't remotely resemble what boogiewoogie1978 and others seem to believe
Duck!
Posted on 12/5/25 at 3:32 pm to MC5601
quote:
I challenge you to find a $300k house in DFW that is within 35 minutes of downtown and not in a terrible school district. It's impossible. The entry point for a decent place to raise a family is about $450k if you don't want to commute 1.5 hours to work each way
You should quit your jobs, move the the country, start welding and you too can have to 3 step kids with 8 illegitimate kiddos.
Posted on 12/5/25 at 3:32 pm to MC5601
quote:After a very cursory stab at the "impossible" ...
find a $300k house in DFW that is within 35 minutes of downtown and not in a terrible school district. It's impossible.
(1)
Plano — 3504 Gatewood, Plano, TX 75074 — $300,000
3 bed / 2 bath. Approx. drive time to downtown Dallas: ~25–35 minutes.
Schools / district: Plano ISD — district appears above-average .
(2)
Richardson — 1807 Eldora Ct, Richardson, TX 75081 — ~$300,000
4 bed / 2 bath. Approx. drive time to downtown Dallas: ~20–30 minutes.
Schools / district: Richardson ISD — not terrible
(3)
Irving — 2210 Starlite Ln, Irving, TX 75061 — $300,000
3 bed / 2 bath.
Approx. drive time to downtown Dallas: ~20–30 minutes.
Schools / district: Irving ISD - not terrible
(4)
Garland — 1425 Whitney Dr, Garland, TX 75040 — $295k
3 bed / 2 bath
Approx. drive time to downtown Dallas: ~25–30 minutes.
Schools / district: Garland ISD - not terrible
Posted on 12/5/25 at 4:20 pm to NC_Tigah
exactly. Paying $300k to live in 1100-1700 square foot in a neighborhood on the "other side of the tracks" with crime and terrible schools. My future children would be a grain of salt in a pepper shaker in East Richardson, East Plano, or Garland. Point proven Also, at rush hour (when city people commute) you are looking at 45 mins - 1:15 each way to Downtown Dallas for each of those properties
This post was edited on 12/5/25 at 4:29 pm
Posted on 12/5/25 at 4:32 pm to MC5601
quote:Terrible schools, that's your assertion? OK. I used avg to above avg districts in the home search criterion, so cite the school records you're referring to, please.
exactly. Paying $300k to live in 1100-1700 square foot in a neighborhood on the "other side of the tracks" with crime and terrible schools
Same with the "other side of the tracks" and crime. Cite the crime stats, and source it.
As for 1100-1700 sq-ft for a starter home, that is about twice what Europeans do ON A MEDIAN BASIS!
It is also what the MEDIAN 1970's US home ran, size-wise.
Posted on 12/5/25 at 4:38 pm to MC5601
quote:I just ran this ... 4:35pm CST on a Friday evening in Dallas.
Also, at rush hour (when city people commute) you are looking at 45 mins - 1:15 each way to Downtown Dallas for each of those properties
Are your other claims similarly unfounded?
Posted on 12/5/25 at 4:55 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
Terrible schools, that's your assertion? OK. I used avg to above avg districts in the home search criterion, so cite the school records you're referring to, please.
Same with the "other side of the tracks" and crime. Cite the crime stats, and source it.
As for 1100-1700 sq-ft for a starter home, that is about twice what Europeans do ON A MEDIAN BASIS!
It is also what the MEDIAN 1970's US home ran, size-wise.
Look up the Demographics of Irving, Garland, Richardson Berkner, Plano East high schools and you'll answer your question about the neighborhoods and school systems
As for the square footage... We ain't in Europe, baw!
Like it or not, no college educated couple is buying those homes for $300k unless they are investment properties. The neighborhood demographics, school system, and blight of the area are all barriers
This post was edited on 12/5/25 at 4:59 pm
Posted on 12/5/25 at 5:18 pm to kingbob
quote:
Yes. By every mathematical measure, yes. Real wages and purchasing power relative to cost of living are WAY down compared to literally any other "modern" generation. By all accounts, youth are living in conditions not seen since the Great Depression. The labor market is broken, housing has never been more expensive, food is unaffordable, people are putting off marriage and children longer and longer due to financial hardship, etc.
No matter how many times you/others post this, it ain't going to become real. It's fascinating why you/so much of your generation cling to this victim mentality.
Tell you what - when Taylor Swift and Bad Bunny have difficulty selling out arenas and stadiums at $1,000 a pop, I'll reconsider whether or not you're onto something. Until then I'll stand by what I've posted in nearly every "boomers stole our prosperity" bitch session on this board - - - life has never been better or easier in the USA than it is today. That's not to say you don't have to make an effort or can't be derailed from your intended course by bad luck, but broadly speaking your generation has it better than boomers, and boomers had it better than their parents, and their parents had it better than their parents, and on and on it goes.
Posted on 12/5/25 at 5:35 pm to MC5601
quote:My search criterion was based on school performance. Plano/Garland are above average. The other two are average ... IAW the 2024–25 Texas Education Agency (TEA) Overall Rating. So per your "impossible" query, none of those districts are close to being "terrible." They may not be Frisco, but they certainly are not Lake Worth, Greenville, or Gainesville either.
Look up the Demographics of Irving, Garland, Richardson Berkner, Plano East high schools and you'll answer your question about the neighborhoods and school systems
quote:… and you ain't living like boomers did either, baw!
As for the square footage... We ain't in Europe, baw!
quote:No doubt.
Like it or not, no college educated couple is buying those homes for $300
However, the problem in these threads, is that is exactly the type home previous generations sought as a starter. Not perfect, but doable.
That is the issue.
I've had this discussion dozens of times, and cited living situations which couples in previous generations pragmatically pursued as starter domiciles. Not because those homes were in the states' top school district. Not because they were elegantly appointed. Not because they resembled in size and scope their parents' house which they had recently left. Those were not the criterion for a first home.
But as you point out, that paradigm has shifted.
Now what served the starter role in the past, is deemed wholly inadequate by today's standards.
That's fine. That's a preference. That's a choice.
But it is neither a preference nor a choice made by another generation for this one. Nor was it the preference or choice of previous generations. If your perception is that those homes, and 100 out there like them in that area are insufficient, by your standards, so be it. Just be clear that your present "standards" are not the historical norm. Nowhere close.
This post was edited on 12/5/25 at 5:52 pm
Posted on 12/5/25 at 5:37 pm to Penrod
Without reading all of that.. Boomers didn’t have AI, computers, cell phones, GPS, simple ways to earn side huddles, etc
In other words, Boomers had it a HELL of a LOT harder than the pussies these days
In other words, Boomers had it a HELL of a LOT harder than the pussies these days
Posted on 12/5/25 at 7:14 pm to Penrod
Young people don't have it harder today. You are just not as intelligent or ambitious as the BOOMERS are!
This post was edited on 12/6/25 at 7:19 pm
Posted on 12/5/25 at 7:15 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
I've had this discussion dozens of times, and cited living situations which couples in previous generations pragmatically pursued as starter domiciles
It’s worth noting those houses were maybe 10 years old in 70s, likely brand new.
I own a 60s ranch house. There is a ton of costs that come with, especially if the previous owners were cheap.
Posted on 12/5/25 at 7:31 pm to Dire Wolf
quote:Now likely with upgraded appliances, counters, faucets, flooring, windows, insulation, roofing, etc. Would you really want the home as originally constructed, or as it now exists, all-in?
It’s worth noting those houses were maybe 10 years old in 70s, likely brand new.
Posted on 12/5/25 at 8:34 pm to kingbob
quote:But you don't want to hear about a black and white tv that had an off air antenna that picked up 3 stations and if you were close enough for a PBS channel. Now we have fiber to the house with gigibit internet going to both your tv with 300 channels and a laptop computer that has more capabilities than a 1960s computer that would occupy a building way bigger than your house. You had Johnson Big Wheels lawnmower that was adequate but nothing like the $4,000 zero turn and $600 back pack blower that cleans up real nicely. How about that $100 month cell phone times ever how many people in the house there were. We had cars that you could actually work instead of relying on a $3,000 computer that you get to replace every now and then. Couldn't tell you have loads of washing machine were hung out on the close line. We farmed and had a garden. Had peas and corn bread probably over half our meals. But, I still them but not every meal. Those are a but a few examples that instead of granite counter tops we had vinyl counter tops (I guess it was vinyl - you glued it down).
Yes. By every mathematical measure, yes. Real wages and purchasing power relative to cost of living are WAY down compared to literally any other "modern" generation. By all accounts, youth are living in conditions not seen since the Great Depression. The labor market is broken, housing has never been more expensive, food is unaffordable, people are putting off marriage and children longer and longer due to financial hardship, etc.
Posted on 12/5/25 at 8:49 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
Now likely with upgraded appliances, counters, faucets, flooring, windows, insulation, roofing, etc. Would you really want the home as originally constructed, or as it now exists, all-in?
I mean dude does this house look terribly updated to you? It’s not a crack house but there is going to be work that needs doing. I rather have it new, at least I’d know the iron plumping isn’t about to crack
LINK
Not bad patio space I’ll give it that, lord help you if you married a white women and have to listen about all the shite she needs done
This post was edited on 12/5/25 at 8:54 pm
Posted on 12/6/25 at 7:19 am to Dire Wolf
quote:No.
I mean dude does this house look terribly updated to you? It’s not a crack house but there is going to be work that needs doing. I rather have it new, at least I’d know the iron plumping isn’t about to crack
That's a fixer-upper. You'd need to price out the costs of improvements, and write those into the offer.
The other three are more what I was referencing ... Upgraded outdoor living spaces, natural stone countertops, modern appliances, upgraded interior, touches, etc.
3504-Gatewood-Ln-Plano
2210-Starlite-Ln-Irving
1425-Whitney-Dr-Garland
Posted on 12/6/25 at 7:36 am to David_DJS
quote:
No matter how many times you/others post this, it ain't going to become real.
People have posted numbers multiple times; it doesn't matter to them. Housing costs as a share of income are about what they were when I graduated in the late 80s. No, it's not great right now, but it's nothing people haven't seen before and it damn sure isn't comparable to the Great Depression.
Page 10 of 14
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News