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re: DNA analysis shows that Jews and Arabs Descended from Canaanites
Posted on 5/26/25 at 11:06 am to L.A.
Posted on 5/26/25 at 11:06 am to L.A.
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The Canaanites are not descended from Abraham. Most of you seem to be using Canaanite and Arab interchangeably, but they are not necessarily the same, The Biblical narrative is that the Canaanites were already in the promised land when the descendants of Abraham arrived.
Yeah, Canaanites were descendants of Ham.
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Posted on 5/26/25 at 11:06 am to Augustus516
quote:Oh boy. Here we go
Most Christians today believe in a Trinity, a teaching not found in the bible
Wes Huff does a good job
The trinity is present in Matthew 3:13-17
Posted on 5/26/25 at 11:06 am to L.A.
You mean all the people from the Middle East basically came from the same ancestry, lol. You don’t say?
Posted on 5/26/25 at 11:11 am to somethingdifferent
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The trinity is present in Matthew 3:13-17
That doesn’t really describe the current orthodox understanding of the trinity.
Posted on 5/26/25 at 11:13 am to Augustus516
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here we are today. Most Christians today believe in a Trinity, a teaching not found in the bible.
The Great Commission in Matthew 28:19 explicitly shows that disciples are to be baptized “in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.” The singular “name” unifies these three Persons under one divine identity, even as it distinctly lists each.
Berean Standard Bible
Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit -- Matthew 28:19
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What is the Holy Trinity?
Nature and Roles of Each Person of the "Holy Trinity"
1. The Father
Often depicted as the Creator and the source of all that exists (e.g., Genesis 1:1), the Father sends the Son into the world (John 3:16). He is the one to whom Christ prays, demonstrating a relational distinction.
2. The Son
The Son, Jesus Christ, is eternally begotten, not made. He took on human flesh (John 1:14) to atone for sins through His death on the cross and triumphant resurrection. His role involves redemption, revelation, and rulership, sharing fully in the Father’s deity (John 10:30).
3. The Holy Spirit
The Spirit is not merely an impersonal force but a Person, described as Comforter, Teacher, and Advocate (John 14:26). He indwells believers, empowers the Church, convicts the world of sin, and testifies to Christ’s resurrection power (Romans 8:11).
Posted on 5/26/25 at 11:17 am to Mo Jeaux
And yet the descendants of Abraham are not in question in any form
Posted on 5/26/25 at 11:18 am to Nosevens
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And yet the descendants of Abraham are not in question in any form
What do you mean?
Posted on 5/26/25 at 11:27 am to somethingdifferent
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It's bad enough you think you know other things you comment on.
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Now you're going to get religion all screwed up i
I'm discussing history.
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Has there ever been a court ruling you disagree with?
Sure. Pontius Pilate's ruling leading to the Romans killing Jesus.
Posted on 5/26/25 at 11:46 am to EphesianArmor
Well. Here are the Biblical facts. Let’s pretend we did not just here a podcast or interpretation of it.
Beginning in Genesis and throughout the Bible we always here about one God. One God worshipped by Abel and Cain (Gen 4:3,4) Noah (Gen 8:20) Abraham, Issac, Jacob, Joseph…you get the picture.
I heard a poster say the Trinity is ubiquitous. Seems strange that a central teaching about worshipping God would not be explicitly recorded in the Bible. What I see from the Ten commandments down is God being referred to as one God.
And in the gospels, i see Jesus referred to as his son, dying for our sins, and teaching is to worship his father. I also see references of Christians being anointed by holy spirit, the same spirit that was used in Genesis to create the earth, descended on Jesus during his baptism. Or God’s power.
And of course, since we are all in on the trinity, Mary, a humble servant of God, privileged to give birth to his son miraculously…is now ‘the mother of God’.
This what is said about her (Luke 1:30, 35, 38).
Why are teachings not found in the bible preached as gospel? Perhaps the great apostasy that Paul and Peter foretold actually happened.
It would make sense that the further we drift from Bible teachings, the more corrupt ‘Christianity’ becomes
If it is not found in the bible, it is even worse to cherry pick scriptures out of context to attempt to support it
Beginning in Genesis and throughout the Bible we always here about one God. One God worshipped by Abel and Cain (Gen 4:3,4) Noah (Gen 8:20) Abraham, Issac, Jacob, Joseph…you get the picture.
I heard a poster say the Trinity is ubiquitous. Seems strange that a central teaching about worshipping God would not be explicitly recorded in the Bible. What I see from the Ten commandments down is God being referred to as one God.
And in the gospels, i see Jesus referred to as his son, dying for our sins, and teaching is to worship his father. I also see references of Christians being anointed by holy spirit, the same spirit that was used in Genesis to create the earth, descended on Jesus during his baptism. Or God’s power.
And of course, since we are all in on the trinity, Mary, a humble servant of God, privileged to give birth to his son miraculously…is now ‘the mother of God’.
This what is said about her (Luke 1:30, 35, 38).
Why are teachings not found in the bible preached as gospel? Perhaps the great apostasy that Paul and Peter foretold actually happened.
It would make sense that the further we drift from Bible teachings, the more corrupt ‘Christianity’ becomes
If it is not found in the bible, it is even worse to cherry pick scriptures out of context to attempt to support it
Posted on 5/26/25 at 11:49 am to Augustus516
Are you an Arian?
Posted on 5/26/25 at 11:53 am to Revelator
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I thought this was common knowledge
It's also biblical,
Abraham
Issac and Ishmael.
Jacob and Esau.
Posted on 5/26/25 at 11:56 am to Mo Jeaux
An ancient bible reader that disputed the Trinity? No. Just a student of the bible. Don’t know much, but if it is not in the Bible, it likely (at least for me) is a pagan teaching.
Think for a moment: why did Egypt and Babylon all have Trinities they worshipped, and the Israelites were constantly being warned not to adopt it? In fact they even got punished for intermingling their worship.
Read Exodus 20:2,3. What does that sound like to you?
Think for a moment: why did Egypt and Babylon all have Trinities they worshipped, and the Israelites were constantly being warned not to adopt it? In fact they even got punished for intermingling their worship.
Read Exodus 20:2,3. What does that sound like to you?
This post was edited on 5/26/25 at 11:59 am
Posted on 5/26/25 at 11:56 am to L.A.
Someone isn’t familiar with Abraham
Posted on 5/26/25 at 11:59 am to Mo Jeaux
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Are you an Arian?
He's obviously Jewish.
Posted on 5/26/25 at 11:59 am to Narax
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It's also biblical, Abraham Issac and Ishmael. Jacob and Esau.
This is also what I was taught
Posted on 5/26/25 at 12:01 pm to Narax
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He's obviously Jewish.
Quoting the New Testament? Ok.
Posted on 5/26/25 at 12:03 pm to Augustus516
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Most Christians today believe in a Trinity, a teaching not found in the bible.
The belief in a triune God isn’t a belief in 3 separate gods.
Posted on 5/26/25 at 12:04 pm to Mo Jeaux
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Quoting the New Testament? Ok.
They do that badly to attack Christianity.
They infest the internet posing as Christians.
Posted on 5/26/25 at 12:08 pm to EphesianArmor
Trinity or no the fundamental problem with Biblical Jesus to me has always been the same. Everybody runs around saying God gave His only begotten son blah blah blah. They say this as if it's a big deal like if I gave my son. It's framed in human terms. But there's nothing human about it. He knows how it's going to turn out from the start. At least if we accept all of the other beliefs about God. It's not really much of a sacrifice to give up your son that you know you're not really giving up from the very beginning because you have all the power. So why am I supposed to be impressed that he gave up his only begotten son to be crucified on the cross? We are talking about supposedly Eternal beings here.
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