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re: DJT comments on the cattle ranchers.

Posted on 10/22/25 at 3:38 pm to
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
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Posted on 10/22/25 at 3:38 pm to
Drought has impacted herd numbers.

Not the largest impact but an impact none the less
Posted by hansenthered1
Dixie
Member since Nov 2023
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Posted on 10/22/25 at 3:38 pm to
Trump is not a conservative.

He is a reactionary populist from the rightwing. These folks are kissing cousins to radical Marxist, always have been. They hate liberals of all stipes, especially conservatives, small government types.

Trump wants to be grand figure of history. He can't do that relying on market forces and supply and demand. I fear in the end, all he is going to do is serve as an example of what doesn't work and embolden his enemies. They already do not focus on the 80% of the stuff he gets exactly right.



Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
55766 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 3:39 pm to
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And i was trying to lead you to water, but what event was happening that might impact energy prices in 2024? Oh that's right, an election. And what act did Joe Biden due to falsely bring energy prices down? Raiding the strategic petroleum reserves. And what happens when we stop raiding the oil reserves, as Trump did? Energy prices begin to go back to previous levels. And what is trump doing to lower energy prices? Opening up drilling, reducing bureaucratic red tape, and signing multiple EO's on day 1 restoring America's might on energy.


Nuh uh. MMT.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 10/22/25 at 3:40 pm to
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reactionary populist


Is Otto back??? Would be glorious. Thought you had passed.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 10/22/25 at 3:40 pm to
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And i was trying to lead you to water,


Son, you cant even acknowledge inflation is up under Trump and employment down. I dont expect you to understand more complex stuff.

Of course you arent going to be able to read a 12 lines of colums proiving that prices for fertilizer rose under Trump, and even moreso when his tariff policy was announced.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
55766 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 3:41 pm to
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Son, you cant even acknowledge inflation is up under Trump and employment down. I dont expect you to understand more complex stuff.


You are making a fool of yourself. You’re a pigeon playing chess.
This post was edited on 10/22/25 at 3:41 pm
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
16261 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 3:41 pm to
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Drought is not the reason our herd is 34% less than in the 70s.

I mostly blame Chik-Fil-A
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
292876 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 3:41 pm to
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He is a reactionary populist from the rightwing. These folks are kissing cousins to radical Marxist, always have been. They hate liberals of all stipes, especially conservatives, small government types.



Indeed. The main ingredient of populism is victimology. They think everyone rich is out to get them.


Populism is directionless and usually drifts to the dock of socialism.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
292876 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 3:41 pm to
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You are making a fool of yourself



Another one who cant read a simple graph.
Posted by Jbird
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/22/25 at 3:42 pm to
Simple like 15
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
55766 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 3:42 pm to
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Indeed. The main ingredient of populism is victimology. They think everyone rich is out to get them.


Trump is the rich you dummy. And you’re the one that wants to tax the rich. Well you and Bernie. It’s amazing you aren’t self aware enough to understand just how dumb you are.
This post was edited on 10/22/25 at 3:43 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 10/22/25 at 3:43 pm to
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Simple like 15


I figured your cognitive age was roughly mid teens.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 10/22/25 at 3:44 pm to
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Trump is the rich you dummy



Which makes his working class populist pretentiousness hilarious.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
55766 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 3:44 pm to
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Another one who cant read a simple graph.


You have proven, yet again to be a binary thinker that cannot comprehend more than two data points. And you’re quadrupling down on it. It’s so cringy…you aren’t smart enough to understand why. Keep strutting pigeon.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
56674 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 3:44 pm to
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Son, you cant even acknowledge inflation is up under Trump and employment down. I dont expect you to understand more complex stuff.


Maybe not, but at least i know what the driving cost of fertilizer is. You think it's tariffs.



quote:

Of course you arent going to be able to read a 12 lines of colums proiving that prices for fertilizer rose under Trump


You mean how during Biden's term fertilizer was in the 200s and 95% of the 4 years of Biden's term, fertilizer was never lower, than Trump's high? And that the only point during Biden's term that fertilizer was cheaper than current price was during the election when Biden opened up the strategic oil reserves to artificially reduce energy prices??? You mean that kind of data?

As i stated before. No one likes you. Even if you weren't so obviously wrong in this thread, no one would pay attention to what you are saying. You just come off sounding like some TDS riddled a-hole.
This post was edited on 10/22/25 at 3:46 pm
Posted by This GUN for HIRE
Member since May 2022
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Posted on 10/22/25 at 3:44 pm to
Newstarget
Posted by hansenthered1
Dixie
Member since Nov 2023
2055 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 3:44 pm to
In the world of realpolitik this story will be reported as him craping on Ranchers.

How many ranchers need to sit home in SD/ND or MT to shift elections?

If beef prices fall and ranchers take a hit, how long do you think it will take to do story on their pain and run that on every major news outlet. If the beef prices fall and they don't fall enough at the grocery store how much do you think people will be ok with domestic ranchers being stabbed in their backs?

Believe it or not PT is not reality. Most people don't get their news from this board.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
55766 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 3:45 pm to
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Which makes his working class populist pretentiousness hilarious.


Oh my. You don’t even realize it, do you? Haha. Rog…I hope you’re living your best life. I can’t imagine being so dumb.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
292876 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 3:46 pm to
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Maybe not, but at least i know what the driving cost of fertilizer is.



You cant even acknowledge the price has risen since tariffs.


So has inflation in general. Ranchers only cost isnt fertilizer. Everything has risen in price.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
56674 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 3:46 pm to
You forgot to quote this part: Why is that?

quote:

You mean how during Biden's term fertilizer was in the 200s and 95% of the 4 years of Biden's term, fertilizer was never lower, than Trump's high? And that the only point during Biden's term that fertilizer was cheaper than current price was during the election when Biden opened up the strategic oil reserves to artificially reduce energy prices??? You mean that kind of data?

As i stated before. No one likes you. Even if you weren't so obviously wrong in this thread, no one would pay attention to what you are saying. You just come off sounding like some TDS riddled a-hole.


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