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re: DJT comments on the cattle ranchers.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 3:47 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 10/22/25 at 3:47 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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So has inflation in general.
We went over this yesterday. Inflation is massively down under Trump, you goon.
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Ranchers only cost isnt fertilizer. Everything has risen in price.
This post was edited on 10/22/25 at 3:49 pm
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Posted on 10/22/25 at 3:48 pm to BugAC
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You mean how during Biden's term fertilizer was in the 200s and 95% of the 4 years of Biden's term, fertilizer was never lower, than Trump's high?
Youre all over the place, Gomer.
The period was Oct 2024 to Oct 2025. The price surged after tariffs were announced.
Its not just fertilizer, Gomer, its prices across the board due to tariffs and the trade war.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 3:48 pm to hansenthered1
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In the world of realpolitik this story will be reported as him craping on Ranchers. How many ranchers need to sit home in SD/ND or MT to shift elections?
It’s not my side of the family businesses, but in Colorado and Wyoming things appear to be doing just fine.
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If beef prices fall and ranchers take a hit, how long do you think it will take to do story on their pain and run that on every major news outlet
I think you are too scared of the democrats. They are going to do this no matter what. Stop worrying about what the Dems will do. They are doing it regardless. It’s twice you have expressed your fear of Dems.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 3:49 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Again, you can't figure out how the quote feature works? or are you just afraid of words.
Here, i'll try it again.
Here, i'll try it again.
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You mean how during Biden's term fertilizer was in the 200s and 95% of the 4 years of Biden's term, fertilizer was never lower, than Trump's high? And that the only point during Biden's term that fertilizer was cheaper than current price was during the election when Biden opened up the strategic oil reserves to artificially reduce energy prices??? You mean that kind of data?
As i stated before. No one likes you. Even if you weren't so obviously wrong in this thread, no one would pay attention to what you are saying. You just come off sounding like some TDS riddled a-hole.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 3:50 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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The period was Oct 2024 to Oct 2025
Two data points Rog is the best Rog. When will you get that PhD? Two data points is the standard, you know?
This post was edited on 10/22/25 at 3:51 pm
Posted on 10/22/25 at 3:51 pm to BugAC
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We went over this yesterday. Inflation is massively down under Trump,
Inflation is rising under Trump
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Aug 1, 2025 2.92%
Jul 1, 2025 2.70%
Jun 1, 2025 2.67%
May 1, 2025 2.35%
Apr 1, 2025 2.31%
Inflation was DECLINING until April 2o25. Do you understand why that time period is important?
Posted on 10/22/25 at 3:51 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Tariffs were announced in April. The increase in price began in January. It would help if you knew how to read a graph. It's ok, i'll post it again.
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LINK
Posted on 10/22/25 at 3:52 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Inflation is rising under Trump
Why aren't you going back further? Since you don't understand statistics, why aren't you going back to Apr of 2024, for comparison sake? Go ahead, post those numbers.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 3:53 pm to BugAC
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Tariffs were announced in April.
Prices have steadily risen on almost everything since. Do you need it posted again?
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Aug 1, 2025 2.92%
Jul 1, 2025 2.70%
Jun 1, 2025 2.67%
May 1, 2025 2.35%
Apr 1, 2025 2.31%
Mar 1, 2025 2.39%
Feb 1, 2025 2.82%
Jan 1, 2025 3.00%
Do you notice where inflation stopped falling, Gomer?
Posted on 10/22/25 at 3:54 pm to DaveyJones12
Unless you were privy to the negotiations, you don’t know what’s gonna happen
Posted on 10/22/25 at 3:54 pm to BugAC
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Why aren't you going back further?
I'm proving to you prices were falling pre-tariff.
We can go back to the main driver of inflation, Trumps covid policy if you want.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 3:55 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Prices have steadily risen on almost everything since. Do you need it posted again?
I'd prefer if you went back a full year. You know, when there was someone else in the white house. Keep going, 2DP Rog. You'll get to it soon enough.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 3:57 pm to BugAC
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I'd prefer if you went back a full year.
To the Trump/Biden inflation?
We can if you want. 2020 and 2021 prety much fricked us for good.
BUt at least if you could read a simple chart it would help.
Why did inflation stop falling in April of 2025 and start rising again?
Posted on 10/22/25 at 3:57 pm to BugAC
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I'd prefer if you went back a full year. You know, when there was someone else in the white house. Keep going, 2DP Rog. You'll get to it soon enough.
He won’t. 2 data points is his capacity.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 3:58 pm to BBONDS25
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He won’t. 2 data points is his capacity.
Or unlike you I understand what "the past 12 months" means.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 3:58 pm to BBONDS25
Learn to be critical of your side when it strays from the values that make it distinct from the dems. If what we are supposed to be is a free country and Trump was supposed to stand against the idea of central economic planning of the Obama/Biden governments then what he is doing now is just not defensible.
If It was bailouts in the form of allowing cheap green energy from a struggling prog left government, say Germany as a way to prop up their prog government and give them access to our markets do you think our oilmen and local green energy people would be happy?
Anecdotal evidence is shite as an argument. I'm making the point of what will happen when cheap Argentina beef is allowed in and undercuts the price of domestic beef. IOW, it has not happened yet.
Scan the headlines...they are already framing this as Trump stabbing cattlemen in the back.
If It was bailouts in the form of allowing cheap green energy from a struggling prog left government, say Germany as a way to prop up their prog government and give them access to our markets do you think our oilmen and local green energy people would be happy?
Anecdotal evidence is shite as an argument. I'm making the point of what will happen when cheap Argentina beef is allowed in and undercuts the price of domestic beef. IOW, it has not happened yet.
Scan the headlines...they are already framing this as Trump stabbing cattlemen in the back.
This post was edited on 10/22/25 at 3:59 pm
Posted on 10/22/25 at 3:58 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I'm proving to you prices were falling pre-tariff.
We can go back to the main driver of inflation, Trumps covid policy if you want.
That's great and feel free to do so, or....why don't we return to the driving price of fertilizer, since that was where we were, then you somehow diverted for some strange reason?
It's ok, you have time, i'm going enjoy open air for a few hours. You keep vigorously fighting internet people. It's doing wonders for your mental health.
Peace!
Posted on 10/22/25 at 3:59 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Or unlike you I understand what "the past 12 months" means.
It’s ok, Corky. You’re doing your best.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 3:59 pm to Bunk Moreland
Farmers for Trump are punching the wall right now
Posted on 10/22/25 at 4:00 pm to hansenthered1
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Anecdotal evidence is shite as an argument. I'm making the point of what will happen when cheap Argentina beef is allowed in and undercuts the price of domestic beef. IOW, it has not happened yet. Scan the headlines...they are already framing this as Trump stabbing cattlemen in the back.
I don’t trust the media. I do trust my brother that runs the family ranches in Colorado and Wyoming.
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