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Posted on 4/18/17 at 4:33 pm to mmcgrath
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So yes, you want to tax people for just being alive. What an idiot.
well they get safety of living in the US of A
you are a baby back bitch.
Posted on 4/18/17 at 4:33 pm to papasmurf1269
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Did y'all know 52 million people payed no federal income taxes in 2014
sure as hell not me.
Posted on 4/18/17 at 4:40 pm to mmcgrath
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So yes, you want to tax people for just being alive. What an idiot.
It's more about using services provided by those who do pay taxes. Roads, bridges, traffic lights, police, it all costs money.
I understand some can't work, but there are plenty of able bodied citizens not paying taxes that obviously benefit daily from taxes being paid.
I could even be fine with not paying taxes if you are capable but choose not to have an income. Except alot of those people then take government assistance and cause more taxation on those who work, double dipping.
It's complicated though, obviously people need money to survive. I just think there would be more incentive to earn money if it wasn't so easy to get by on someone else's. It would benefit everyone in the end IMO. Politicians need you to need them though...
This post was edited on 4/18/17 at 4:52 pm
Posted on 4/18/17 at 5:05 pm to mmcgrath
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our solution is to tax people with the least money. How does that change anything except your victim complex?
Free shite is IMMENSELY popular to people with no skin in the game.
This post was edited on 4/18/17 at 5:06 pm
Posted on 4/18/17 at 5:10 pm to HonoraryCoonass
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We need to quit growing the turnips.
My introduction to turnips was in a stew when I was a kid. You ever bite into a turnip thinking it's a potato?
You will eject it with the quickness.
Posted on 4/18/17 at 5:11 pm to SlowFlowPro
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the bigger issue is the number of people with negative tax rates
That's not the bigger issue.
The bigger issue is what Washington does with the money we send them.
Don't take your eye off the ball.
Posted on 4/18/17 at 5:12 pm to papasmurf1269
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This is a damn shame. Why doesn't everybody have to pay at least a little something?
Because we give incentives to the poorest to breed, that's why.
Posted on 4/18/17 at 5:18 pm to papasmurf1269
That number seems suspiciously low. There's more than just 52 million deadbeats in this country. And some of those people are just retired or rich and that's why they aren't paying income taxes. And some of the people who do pay income taxes only do so because they have a bullshite job that's funded by tax dollars. Its why we need more manufacturing and vocational schools.
Posted on 4/18/17 at 5:23 pm to papasmurf1269
Yeah but let's keep going after the middle class and rich.
Les keepnincreasing entitlement programs and hold no one accountable.
I am all for helping those that truly cannot work or disabled. I am tired of helping those who abuse the system or fraud.
That 52 Million number is ridiculous. I would like to know what percentage of that 52 M get a refund check?
Les keepnincreasing entitlement programs and hold no one accountable.
I am all for helping those that truly cannot work or disabled. I am tired of helping those who abuse the system or fraud.
That 52 Million number is ridiculous. I would like to know what percentage of that 52 M get a refund check?
Posted on 4/18/17 at 5:24 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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The bigger issue is what Washington does with the money we send them.
i'd imagine if we increased the number of people who paid, they'd start to care a bit more
we need more people caring before we can do anything to stop DC bullshite
Posted on 4/18/17 at 5:25 pm to papasmurf1269
Isn't that the goal of conservatives, to pay no taxes?
Posted on 4/18/17 at 5:34 pm to papasmurf1269
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This is a damn shame. Why doesn't everybody have to pay at least a little something
They do. Sales tax for example
Posted on 4/18/17 at 5:37 pm to papasmurf1269
Just need to add a fed tax on junk food, beer, and tattoos and we'll collect from them that way.
Posted on 4/18/17 at 5:37 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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I am all for helping those that truly cannot work or disabled. I am tired of helping those who abuse the system or fraud
What most think of welfare (EBT, food stamps, supplemental income, etc) is an insignificant drop in the bucket compared to defense spending and social security
Posted on 4/18/17 at 5:40 pm to bmy
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What most think of welfare (EBT, food stamps, supplemental income, etc) is an insignificant drop in the bucket compared to defense spending and social security
Medicaid is no "insignificant drop in the bucket", friend
it's no Medicare, but it's huge
Medicare
SS
Military
Medicaid
these are the only programs that truly matter in the big picture. 3 are direct entitlements/welfare. one is work-fare (and constitutionally-mandated, just not at the level we currently are at)
Posted on 4/18/17 at 5:44 pm to papasmurf1269
That's shitty considering I pay out of every check and still had to pay @ refund season. I hate our system.
Posted on 4/18/17 at 6:04 pm to Strannix
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Most of those people also get EITC for thousands of dollars.
Yes. Yes, they do.
Posted on 4/18/17 at 6:16 pm to ShortyRob
So if I tell my boss to hold the maximum out of my taxes, and you hold the minimum, you think we should be taxed evenly from what's left over?
I get the max taken out. Keeps what I owe at year's end to a minimum.
I get the max taken out. Keeps what I owe at year's end to a minimum.
Posted on 4/18/17 at 6:38 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Medicaid is no "insignificant drop in the bucket", friend
it's no Medicare, but it's huge
True. But it's not really what most people think of when they talk about welfare. People love to get pissed off about obamaphones, EBT, food stamps, welfare queens, etc.
Those aren't the people raping us with medicare and most of the welfare queen types haven't had medical treatment in years.
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