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Did S Korea have insider info on this whole scenario

Posted on 4/2/20 at 11:41 am
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
13290 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 11:41 am
I keep hearing the testing stopped the deaths, testing doesnt stop squat, how is it they have such an inter related relationship with China, particularly with travel related to trade, yet such a small number infected or dying???

Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69243 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 11:42 am to
They had a system in place to deal with a sars-like virus


And their people are very obedient to government guidelines
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
421299 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 11:44 am to
quote:

They had a system in place to deal with a sars-like virus


And their people are very obedient to government guidelines

this
Posted by Thecoz
Member since Dec 2018
2510 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 11:45 am to
germany had testing kits being built in december-early jan. and icu beds being beefed up...

we all had the same information

just reacted differently
Posted by Thecoz
Member since Dec 2018
2510 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 11:49 am to
enough testing kits identify the source of the problem.....which then allows you to remove it early or fence it off from spreading

Posted by Jrv2damac
Kanorado
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 4/2/20 at 11:49 am to
Kimchi
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
33845 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 11:50 am to
quote:

They had a system in place to deal with a sars-like virus




Exactly. They have dealt with SARS and MERS. Their culture has adapted
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
421299 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 11:50 am to
quote:

germany had testing kits being built in december-early jan.


i think the WHO approved the German test (as the WHO test) on January 17

quote:

we all had the same information


January 17 was 2 days after the WHO told the world COVID-19 wasn't transmittable from human-to-human
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21389 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 11:51 am to
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I keep hearing the testing stopped the deaths, testing doesnt stop squat, how is it they have such an inter related relationship with China, particularly with travel related to trade, yet such a small number infected or dying???



Hearing reports the gov accessed cellphone gps locations to ensure citizens remained in isolation.

Their isolation was much stricter than ours.

The real question is how much control do we want to give the government here. I don't want to give them that much power.
Posted by Ex-Popcorn
Member since Nov 2005
2127 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 11:52 am to
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yet such a small number infected or dying???


It's a combination of several things that we do not have:

1) They dealt with MERS in 2015. That prepped them for this. They had a testing protocol in place and their citizens were already accustomed to a lock down. It was completely foreign to us.

2) After dealing with MERS, their government enacted legislation that gives the government instant access to credit card transactions, phone GPS data, car nav gps data...all without judicial scrutiny or subpoenas. This makes tracking people much easier.

3) They also have more government controlled cameras than anyone. The average citizen is on camera 83x per day.

4) All of this coupled with the fact that they are the size of Indiana makes tracking and testing that much easier

On top of all of this, their government has the ability to force a tracking app onto their phones that notifies the government when a quarantined individual leaves their home.

With civil liberties and all...I doubt this ever happens in america.
This post was edited on 4/2/20 at 11:55 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
421299 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 11:53 am to
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Their isolation was much stricter than ours.

The real question is how much control do we want to give the government here. I don't want to give them that much power.

and therein lies the problem with hindsight bias

we could have stopped the spread had we enacted marital law in about 10 coastal cities back in early January (when we were being told it wasn't transferable from human to human and weeks before we were told stopping travel from China was wrong for stigmatizing people)
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27029 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 11:55 am to
quote:

Did S Korea have insider info


Don't know but I heard NORKO pulled their entire population's teeth...
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89476 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 11:56 am to
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And their people are very obedient to government guidelines


That American golf pro that works mainly with S. Koreans had a great quote last year, something to the effect of, "They're extremely coachable." I at that.
Posted by BuzzSaw 12
The Dark Side Of The Moon
Member since Dec 2010
5215 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 11:59 am to
Well obviously this guy was able to save the day.







Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11471 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 12:01 pm to
They didn’t just test. They tested traced and quarantined.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123776 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 12:06 pm to
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testing doesnt stop squat
But response to testing does.
If you feel perfectly fine, you may want to check up on grandma. Bring her some cookies or dinner. Then again, if you knew you were infected or someone in direct contact with you was, you'd never dream of exposing grandma.

SoKo began heavy testing early on, when it is most effective. Our CDC screwed the pooch, and set us back a critical month.

That month was critical.
How critical?
Mathematically, if an average infected person passed the virus to just 2 people/24hr, over the course of a month hundreds of millions would be infected. Now obviously those are theoretical numbers. Social distancing, geography, etc play a limiting role. But it goes to show the impact which just one month of CDC bureaucracy had on our situation.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
17443 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 12:19 pm to
quote:

They had a system in place to deal with a sars-like virus
And their people are very obedient to government guidelines



Plus their HUMINT intel network hadn’t been rolled up and executed by the CCP almost a decade ago.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69243 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 12:19 pm to
quote:


germany had testing kits being built in december-early jan. and icu beds being beefed up...

we all had the same information

just reacted differently



All the good it did them....

Their nation is on lockdown like ours, and their case growth rate hasn’t even peaked yet
This post was edited on 4/2/20 at 12:20 pm
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