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re: DeSantis has most of Trump’s strengths without his many weaknesses
Posted on 6/6/21 at 10:11 am to HailToTheChiz
Posted on 6/6/21 at 10:11 am to HailToTheChiz
We could go back to the Jeb Bush and Mitt Romney candidates. Back to being losers again.
Trump has changed on how to be a president in America today. The Dems are just too aggressive and will chew up any Republican candidate that doesn't fight back. Now isn't the time to be nice as the Dems want you ruined or dead.
We are at the point of no return and the newly reformed Trump Republican party has to be on the offensive now and attack the left.
Trump has changed on how to be a president in America today. The Dems are just too aggressive and will chew up any Republican candidate that doesn't fight back. Now isn't the time to be nice as the Dems want you ruined or dead.
We are at the point of no return and the newly reformed Trump Republican party has to be on the offensive now and attack the left.
Posted on 6/6/21 at 10:15 am to Draconian Sanctions
Why?
He can definitely talk the talk and seems to walk the walk, but he's an insider.
I will take an outsider over an insider much more quickly after seeing what I've seen.
He can definitely talk the talk and seems to walk the walk, but he's an insider.
I will take an outsider over an insider much more quickly after seeing what I've seen.
Posted on 6/6/21 at 11:07 am to SDVTiger
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Why are GA posters mentally ill?
Probably because the last President under-performed the majority of down-ballot Republicans in the big GA counties and lost the state. Maybe they're pissed that Trump surrounded himself with Wood and Powell who actively encouraged voters to boycott the runoff which resulted in not as high turnout in GOP areas? Or the fact that these conspiracy theories, coupled with Trump acting like a fricking baby, angered and mobilized suburban wine moms who otherwise would've been complacent since Trump's arse was going to be out in a few weeks, to get out and vote against Loeffler and Perdue?
I don't know, maybe that's why?
Posted on 6/6/21 at 11:09 am to RammerJammer91
Didn’t Trump get the most votes of any president ever?
Posted on 6/6/21 at 11:14 am to dchog
Frick Jeb and Romney, especially the latter. He fricked up what was a winnable election.
With that said, we should tell Trump to go frick himself, too. He lost and failed us. Why the frick are we embracing him? We rightfully told McCain and Romney to go frick themselves and refused to embrace them after they failed us. Why the frick are we treating Trump differently? Not to mention, a guy whose nutjob confidants helped hand over the 2 GA Senate seat to the Dems on a silver platter. We should like guys who win, not guys (McCain, Romney, Trump, etc.) who lost and failed us.
DeSantis is a slam-dunk. Anyone who would rather support Trump than DeSantis is a fricking moron. Trump can't win in 2024.
With that said, we should tell Trump to go frick himself, too. He lost and failed us. Why the frick are we embracing him? We rightfully told McCain and Romney to go frick themselves and refused to embrace them after they failed us. Why the frick are we treating Trump differently? Not to mention, a guy whose nutjob confidants helped hand over the 2 GA Senate seat to the Dems on a silver platter. We should like guys who win, not guys (McCain, Romney, Trump, etc.) who lost and failed us.
DeSantis is a slam-dunk. Anyone who would rather support Trump than DeSantis is a fricking moron. Trump can't win in 2024.
Posted on 6/6/21 at 11:15 am to Draconian Sanctions
I understand what you are saying, and on the surface, I agree. However, we cannot pretend that any republican nominee isnt going to be portrayed as a racist, nazi, demented, lunatic by the media and dems in DC regardless of who it is. We tried running their "approved republicans" in McCain and Romney and they were brutalized and lost. As far as electability goes, Trump had good results with swing voters and minorities, so I'm not sure that argument stands either. If not for these insane covid mail in voter rules, he wins 2020 walking away. Trump was never the problem.
Posted on 6/6/21 at 11:17 am to ReauxlTide222
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Didn’t Trump get the most votes of any president ever?
Most of any incumbent President, yes. But he lost the popular vote and EC in 2020. On a precinct-by-precinct basis, there were over 5 million voters who voted for at least 1 down-ballot Republican in 2016 and approximately 5 million voters in 2020 that didn't vote for Trump. That's a lot of votes he left out there. DeSantis won't leave anywhere close to that out there. A lot of that is because Trump does a shite job of appealing to these suburban voters, who are Republican-leaning and historically vote Republican. That's why there has been a lot of ticket splitting over the last 2 Presidential elections. DeSantis does significantly better with these voters than Trump does.
Posted on 6/6/21 at 11:20 am to RammerJammer91
Trump isn’t the problem. The whole narrative of Trump being this toxic and mean person is media manipulation.
Anyone complaining about Trump being mean or toxic needs to get over it. The media is going to portray any non-Democrat that way. Anyone who voted against Trump because of the “mean”, “toxic”, “racist” tag got played for fools by the democrats and media.
Anyone complaining about Trump being mean or toxic needs to get over it. The media is going to portray any non-Democrat that way. Anyone who voted against Trump because of the “mean”, “toxic”, “racist” tag got played for fools by the democrats and media.
Posted on 6/6/21 at 11:24 am to Colonel Flagg
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Trump isn’t the problem. The whole narrative of Trump being this toxic and mean person is media manipulation.
Anyone complaining about Trump being mean or toxic needs to get over it. The media is going to portray any non-Democrat that way. Anyone who voted against Trump because of the “mean”, “toxic”, “racist” tag got played for fools by the democrats and media.
It's not about being "toxic," as you said, the media will say that about any Republican. The issue is that Trump can't win the EC going forward with no green party candidate (Stein) or Democrat-lite posing as a Libertarian (Johnson) on the ballot because he constantly under-performs down-ballot Republicans in the suburbs.
He faces the same issue in states that he wins. In Texas he underperformed John Cornyn, who most people couldn't pick out of a lineup, by over 100K in just the 10 largest counties alone.
Posted on 6/6/21 at 11:35 am to RammerJammer91
The point is there needs to be a narrative fighting back against this media manipulation. There needs to be Republican support to enlighten these down voters they are being played.
Republicans criticizing Trump are playing right into the media/democrats hands. Anyone portraying Trump as “toxic” or “mean” in this environment is the problem. It is especially bad when someone calls themselves Republican/conservative.
They have manipulated these republicans voters by creating two scenarios:
#1 They force a Republican candidate to always play nice and take the high road and the media just destroy them with “fake news” the Republican is too scared to fight.
#2. If Republican candidate fights back on the narrative then the media calls them “toxic”, “mean”, and “divisive” when the democrats/media are the instigators with the divisive environment.
People need to wake up to this obvious stupidity of the democrats/media.
Republicans criticizing Trump are playing right into the media/democrats hands. Anyone portraying Trump as “toxic” or “mean” in this environment is the problem. It is especially bad when someone calls themselves Republican/conservative.
They have manipulated these republicans voters by creating two scenarios:
#1 They force a Republican candidate to always play nice and take the high road and the media just destroy them with “fake news” the Republican is too scared to fight.
#2. If Republican candidate fights back on the narrative then the media calls them “toxic”, “mean”, and “divisive” when the democrats/media are the instigators with the divisive environment.
People need to wake up to this obvious stupidity of the democrats/media.
This post was edited on 6/6/21 at 11:38 am
Posted on 6/6/21 at 11:36 am to RammerJammer91
quote:I have a feeling this won’t just be a Trump problem moving forward.
A lot of that is because Trump does a shite job of appealing to these suburban voters, who are Republican-leaning and historically vote Republican. That's why there has been a lot of ticket splitting over the last 2 Presidential elections. DeSantis does significantly better with these voters than Trump does.
The media has gotten to these Karens and they just don’t feel comfortable pulling the lever for a Republican when soooo many injustices are being committed.
Posted on 6/6/21 at 11:54 am to RammerJammer91
If it wasn't for Trump then we would have another Clinton in both 16 and 20. No one would be good enough to fire up the conservative base to go out and vote. The Republican party was dead and in bed with the Dems.
Yes Trump lost in a fraudulent election but won without it. Yes he failed because the rinos did nothing but watched a stolen election happen in real time.
DeSantis is good but if both ran in the Republican primaries then Trump would still beat him by a lot.
Yes Trump lost in a fraudulent election but won without it. Yes he failed because the rinos did nothing but watched a stolen election happen in real time.
DeSantis is good but if both ran in the Republican primaries then Trump would still beat him by a lot.
Posted on 6/6/21 at 12:07 pm to dchog
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I’m looking at it from a dispassionate political analysis.
BS you are looking at this while still sucking off Mom's hind tit.
Posted on 6/6/21 at 12:07 pm to dchog
If Trump says he is going to run everyone else just needs to get out of the way.
Posted on 6/7/21 at 11:37 am to Draconian Sanctions
Love DeSantis but he aint the Godfather... Trump showed everyone how it was done... Without Trump you dont get a DeSantis...
And no, Trump Does Not need to pick him as a running mate because DeSantis can do Waaaaay more good as being a the govenor of Florida.. he will be hidden away as VP... Everyone knows already he can do the job... Trump needs to find some schmo to run, because its not going to matter.. but keep DeSantis as governor...
And no, Trump Does Not need to pick him as a running mate because DeSantis can do Waaaaay more good as being a the govenor of Florida.. he will be hidden away as VP... Everyone knows already he can do the job... Trump needs to find some schmo to run, because its not going to matter.. but keep DeSantis as governor...
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