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Dem's new proof of Russian collusion: Bannon to Stone to Credico to Wikileaks. LOLLLL

Posted on 1/28/19 at 12:33 pm
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 1/28/19 at 12:33 pm
So the Roger Stone indictment makes the assertion that Bannon contacted Roger Stone to inquire about when the new batch of DNC emails that were going to be released and that line of communique went from Steve Bannon, to Roger Stone, to Randy Credico to Julian Assange.

If that is Russian collusion that has got to be the worst form of collusion in the history of the world.

And watch the Dems and the media on opinion talk shows. They always talk in terms that it was the the Russian GRU that hacked the DNC server and uploaded the data to Wikilieaks. Everyone knows that has not been proven and in fact there is A LOT of circumstantial evidence that it was an inside job hack and Seth Rich was the guy that transferred the DNC emails to Wikileaks.

But back to the main point: if Bannon to Stone to Credico to Wikileaks as spelled out in the Roger Stone indictment is Russian collusion then EVERYTHING is Russian collusion.

Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 1/28/19 at 12:35 pm to
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But back to the main point: if Bannon to Stone to Credico to Wikileaks as spelled out in the Roger Stone indictment is Russian collusion then EVERYTHING is Russian collusion.



Stone is going to sue the shite out of the government after this, and he should. Sadly, taxpayers will have to pay that cost, not Mueller and the left.
Posted by ngadawg250
Northwest Georgia
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/28/19 at 12:36 pm to
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is Russian collusion then EVERYTHING is Russian collusion.


Everything except that which was actually direct collusion. Follow the trail of the Russian dossier, via, DNC to Steele to Russia and back.
Posted by Bunyan
He/Him
Member since Oct 2016
20828 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 12:38 pm to
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Everything except that which was actually direct collusion. Follow the trail of the Russian dossier, via, DNC to Steele to Russia and back

The biggest scandal in modern American history

I pray people are brought to justice. If not, it will only embolden them to do it again
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 1/28/19 at 12:39 pm to
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. Follow the trail of the Russian dossier, via, DNC to Steele to Russia and back.



I just hope that all of these process crimes that people associated with the Trump team will be applied equally once Barr takes over and the only reason that some on the Trump team are being indicted first is to show even handed justice when the incitements start coming down on Hillary's side.
Posted by YankeeBama
Milwaukee
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 1/28/19 at 12:47 pm to
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i pray people are brought to justice. If not, it will only embolden them to do it again


Oh they will. Just because nothing is happening in the news doesn’t mean there isn’t anything happening. A case is being built and the IG/AG/DOJ aren’t experiencing as many leaks as we are accustomed to from the bad actors. Whenever you feel discouraged ask yourself these questions:

1) Why did they announce a Grand Jury for McCabe if nothing was going to come of it?
2) What is Baker being accused of and would that deter DOJ behavior?
3) Why would Trump knowingly appoint a “friend” of Bob Mueller as AG?
4) Why is the most outspoken POTUS in history not using firepower that we all know that he has (declass)? Hell has he not dropped enough hints.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 1/28/19 at 12:49 pm to
Rexcatur class incoming! I am guessing TigerDoc will be the first.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
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Posted on 1/28/19 at 12:50 pm to
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4) Why is the most outspoken POTUS in history not using firepower that we all know that he has (declass)? Hell has he not dropped enough hints.


Sounds like Qtard crap
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 12:52 pm to
You got that right

If anything this Russian shite is waaaaaay more far fetched!

Good for you!
Posted by YankeeBama
Milwaukee
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 1/28/19 at 12:53 pm to
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Sounds like Qtard crap



I don’t follow Q. It’s just common sense. Someone has put a muzzle on Trump regarding his declass power. Only three things can explain this:

The swamp has hood winked him into to thinking declass is a bad thing

Or

Declassifying could interfere with an ongoing investigation.

Or

Pure political timing
This post was edited on 1/28/19 at 12:54 pm
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21314 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 12:56 pm to
Wow, so...

Trump ---> Bannon ---> Stone ---> Credico ---> Wikileaks ---> Russians.

Given 5 degrees of separation I'm sure you can, quite literally, connect anyone to anything.
This post was edited on 1/28/19 at 12:56 pm
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 1/28/19 at 12:56 pm to
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Sounds like Qtard crap


Says the guy that believes in MUH Russia.

Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 1/28/19 at 12:57 pm to
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Declassifying could interfere with an ongoing investigation.

Or

Pure political timing



Both of these...which leads to the overarching reason; leverage.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 1/28/19 at 1:02 pm to
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Trump ---> Bannon ---> Stone ---> Credico ---> Wikileaks ---> Russians.


And NO ONE has proved the Wikileaks ---> Russians connection. They want us to rely on the word of Crowstike executives. Crowstrike is the IT firm that examined the DNC server after the hack.

But we have other sources that say otherwise:

From The Nation. A very liberal magazine: A New Report Raises Big Questions About Last Year’s DNC Hack Former NSA experts say it wasn’t a hack at all, but a leak—an inside job by someone with access to the DNC’s system.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 1/28/19 at 1:27 pm to
And just like that Andrew McCarthy with a new article basically saying the same thing (but of course in a lot more detailed and eloquent manner):

Stone Indictment Underscores That There Was No Trump-Russia Conspiracy

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So now we have the Stone indictment.

It alleges no involvement — by Stone or the Trump campaign — in Russia’s hacking. The indictment’s focus, instead, is the WikiLeaks end of the enterprise — i.e., not the “cyberespionage” of a foreign power that gave rise to the investigation, but the dissemination of the stolen emails after the hacking. And what do we learn? That the Trump campaign did not know what WikiLeaks had. That is, in addition to being uninvolved in Russia’s espionage, the Trump campaign was uninvolved in Julian Assange’s acquisition of what Russia stole.

The Stone indictment reads like an episode of The Three Stooges. Stone and two associates — conservative writer and conspiracy theorist Jerry Corsi, and left-wing-comedian-turned-radio-host Randy Credico, respectively denominated “Person 1” and “Person 2” — are on a quest to find out what WikiLeaks has on Hillary Clinton and when Assange is going to publicize it. But that does not suit Stone, who has cultivated an image of political dirty trickster and plugged-in soothsayer. In public, then, Stone pretends to know more than he knows and to have an insider’s view of Assange’s operation; behind the scenes, he scrounges around for clues about what Assange is up to, hoping some insider will tell him.

That is, it’s a clown show. A despicable one, at that. Assange is an inveterate anti-American who has done incalculable damage to U.S. intelligence operations. How interesting that Robert Mueller led the FBI during those debacles and has special incentive to dig into the WikiLeaks–Kremlin connection. And how interesting that Assange was a heroic figure to the Left, and the bane of the national-security Right, before his apparent distaste for Hillary flipped the script (at least for blind Trump and Clinton partisans). In any event, we have Stone and Corsi racking their brains about how to ferret out what Assange has got, and to understand the timeline in which he might release it — hoping against hope that it will kill off the Clinton bid. And we have Credico, Stone’s radio-host pal, dealing directly with Assange (mainly by interviewing him), then passing information along to Stone while imploring Stone to keep his (Credico’s) name out of it.
Posted by Ten Bears
Florida
Member since Oct 2018
3225 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 1:42 pm to
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Both of these...which leads to the overarching reason; leverage.


BS...the window for changing the narrative has closed. 41% of libtards truly believe that Trump had Putin change vote totals.

In addition, call me friggin crazy, but if half is what we think is true regarding Clinton/Obama/DOJ/FBI/DOJ corruption is true, Trump has ZERO, ZIP, NADA rights to hold such information as "political leverage."


For the good of the country, it would have to be released immediately.


Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6--Brazos River Backwater
Member since Sep 2015
26067 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 1:50 pm to
Bannon...to Stone...to Credico...to WIKILEAKS!

That's a triple play! Impeach, yea!
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118550 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 1:54 pm to
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Bannon...to Stone...to Credico...to WIKILEAKS!

That's a triple play! Impeach, yea!


Impeach is a political standard, so effectively that is no standard at all.

So what is the legal standard in this case?
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6--Brazos River Backwater
Member since Sep 2015
26067 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 1:57 pm to
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legal standard

Does Russia collusion to alter the 2016 election ring a bell? And yes, the political will is out there, too.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
9893 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 1:58 pm to
Quick corex for this thread. The indictment alleges that Stone lied about Credico being his intermediary to WL with regard to the emails (while Corsi was his actual intermediary). Stone tried to get Credico to plead the fifth and otherwise lie using florid gangster threats and Godfather II references so that the stories wouldn't conflict.
This post was edited on 1/28/19 at 2:00 pm
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