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Democrats Cannot Impeach Trump, and Cannot Impeach Him After Leaving Office

Posted on 1/10/21 at 8:23 pm
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
61198 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 8:23 pm
So says Alan Dershowitz

Not that the Democrats give two fricks about the US Constitution

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Harvard Law professor emeritus Alan Dershowitz said Democrats have virtually no chance of successfully impeaching and removing President Donald Trump before Inauguration Day on Jan. 20.

“The case cannot come to trial in the Senate. Because the Senate has rules, and the rules would not allow the case to come to trial until, according to the majority leader, until 1 p.m. on January 20th, an hour after President Trump leaves office,” Dershowitz said in a Fox Business interview on Sunday.

Dershowitz, who defended Trump during the Senate impeachment trial about a year ago, suggested that the Constitution does not allow for impeaching a former president.

epoch times
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 8:25 pm to
I'm not sure about that (meaning after leaving office) but he is correct, there is no way of getting trial done anyway.
Posted by LEASTBAY
Member since Aug 2007
14259 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 8:25 pm to
Well duh. Bitch is unhinged.
Posted by hogcard1964
Illinois
Member since Jan 2017
10383 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 8:27 pm to
I knew this

So does crazy Nancy, hence her being on her knees lapping at Pence in order to get him to lead on the 25th Amdmt.
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22233 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 8:28 pm to
Impeachment is not their goal. It’s to beat into submission anyone who shares the values of Donald Trump. The message is this: “We will do the same to you if you dare think and act like Trump“.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31437 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 8:28 pm to
These are the people who did this the first time at the beginning of a pandemic and then criticized Trump for taking a dump instead of "doing his job."

How do they live with themselves?
Posted by Shamoan
Member since Feb 2019
9161 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 8:29 pm to
E.A.D. Nancy!
Posted by tgerb8
Huntsvegas
Member since Aug 2007
5961 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 8:29 pm to
quote:

Not that the Democrats give two fricks about the US Constitution


I mean. they obviously don't so I don't think the rules really matter at this point.
Posted by Bulldogblitz
In my house
Member since Dec 2018
26774 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 8:29 pm to
Alan 'bout to get canceled for saying such things.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98453 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 8:39 pm to
He's right
Posted by Shamoan
Member since Feb 2019
9161 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 8:43 pm to
....as if laws and precedent will stop these psychopaths......they have no boundaries
Posted by COAUTiger
Lil town called Nunyogotdambidness
Member since Jun 2012
352 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 8:49 pm to
Isn't he the guy that defended Epstein and may have participated with Epstein's crimes?
Posted by Deplorableinohio
Member since Dec 2018
5533 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 8:54 pm to
GDI. The constitution, rules, and precedent don’t mean anything to Demorats.

Trump 1/20/2021.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25547 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 9:01 pm to
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Democrats Cannot Impeach Trump, and Cannot Impeach Him After Leaving Office


The first part of your title is categorically incorrect. The House could easily impeach Trump in very short order, what is very unlikely is the Senate convicting him unless Mitch changes the Senate's schedule along with getting the votes.

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suggested that the Constitution does not allow for impeaching a former president.


This is more debatable. Article II doesn't speak to this specifically but it is arguable that there is no impeachment after an officers term is up via the verbiage "removed from office" in Art II Sect 4. I don't think it was written with any forethought to an officer being impeached after they left office, however, I would argue that they absolutely could impeach an officer, once their term was over given part of a conviction, can carry the prohibition to hold "any office of honor, trust or profit under the United States" clause so it would still be germane.

There is no precedent here and as we commonly say ask 10 Con Law attorneys a question and you will get 11 answers.

This is really all academic since I don't think there is a chance to get the votes in the Senate for conviction even if Mitch changes the schedule.

This post was edited on 1/10/21 at 9:04 pm
Posted by ArkBengal
Benton, AR
Member since Aug 2004
1921 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 9:21 pm to
So if that is possible, it would also allow a future administration to impeach Obama ?
Posted by Lucius Clay
Member since Sep 2012
3420 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 9:24 pm to
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think and act like Trump


Pathological lying, narcissistic rage, autocratic leanings...

Yeah...pretty much that kind of thinking and behavior deserves to be stamped out. The majority of Americans did not want King Trump.
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
19493 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 9:26 pm to

They used made up laws the first time, so reality won’t get in their way.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
43977 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 9:27 pm to
quote:

that kind of thinking and behavior deserves to be stamped out

Not that I agree with your characterization, but the sole purpose of the 1A is to protect that which you find most vile.
Posted by HabaneroBuck
Up a ways.
Member since Oct 2020
1359 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 9:39 pm to
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They used made up laws the first time, so reality won’t get in their way.


Yeah, even if the Trump call to Ukraine was as bad as they say it was, it still wasn't even an impeachable offense.

"Go investigate my political enemy." OK, so he (I don't even believe this) used his position of power to investigate a personal rival. You can impeach over someone looking into things?
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25547 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 9:43 pm to
quote:

So if that is possible, it would also allow a future administration to impeach Obama ?


Correct. I don't think anything in Title II prevents an impeachment post office BUT I doubt it would ever happen since charging them with the crimes the impeachment would be based upon would be a more expedient way to handle it.
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