Democrats aren't just repelling democrats but they are disgusting the independents too

Sigh. Funny thing to say while Republicans are turning on Trump. The denial is so strong you made a thread about how confident you are.

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Funny thing to say while Republicans are turning on Trump.

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Never Trumpers can't be said to "turn" on Trump. They didn't support or vote for him in 2016 and most will not vote for him in 2020 - although many will.

More importantly, independents are seeing the results of his policies and realize what a complete farce and complete sh!t show this "investigation" is.

I've spoken with MANY people who didn't vote for Trump but who plan to in 2020.

I haven't met one person who voted for Trump but doesn't plan to in 2020. Most will have much more enthusiasm when they pull that lever in 2020 because Trump has either fulfilled his campaign promises or is fighting to do so every day of the week.

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OK I'm fascinated by this movement and watch the videos occasionally.

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Aww.. congrats . Not only is there no data that suggests that Democrats are fleeing en masse (quite the opposite in some regions) ,You've made Putin proud tonight. There have been exhaustive articles revealing Russian Bots as the main impetus behind this. Sure there's probably a few legit people in this. For the most part, it's being heavily promoted, tweeted and distributed by Kremlin linked operatives. And no, you can find the links yourself.

Again, you are doing exactly what Putin wants.

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Not only is there no data that suggests that Democrats are fleeing en masse

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Certain segments of the democratic party are or have been fleeing en masse for some years now.

White working class workers up till around the year 2000 were supporters of the democratic party. They have massively left the party and now vote GOP by very substantial margins (Trump won them by largest margin since FDR in 1936). This is showing up in state results: Iowa, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania were considered blue states on the national level in the 1990s and 2000, 2004, 2008, and 2012. When a state swings 10 points in 4 years, something is happening in terms of people leaving a party.

Bill Clinton won white working class voters in 1996....Trump won them by like 39 points. That is a yuge swing.

Well if Putin wants Trump to have stronger majorities in the House and Senate next year, by damn pop open the Vodka.

As someone who is relatively centrist I can say this walk away thing is pretty real. I've seen some on the left call it a hoax but many left center and other democrats are tired of the party attack it's own supporters.

Have a few friends who are Bernie bros who are pretty much done with the Democratic Party. Bernie could do some major damage if goes Independent soon.

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There have been exhaustive articles revealing Russian Bots as the main impetus behind this.

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How many Russian bot anti-Trump rallies did you go to after the election?

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As someone who is relatively centrist I can say this walk away thing is pretty real. I've seen some on the left call it a hoax but many left center and other democrats are tired of the party attack it's own supporters.

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People have been walking away from the democratic party for over a decade....especially in rural and small town America.

Check out this map.

2008 also had record number of young people vote, something they destroyed when they fixed the primary against Bernie.

Issue is the Democratic leadership is just sad. Schumer, Pelosi, Waters, my god what a terrible cast of cry babies.